playoff hopes

[EKnight]

Ten years ago, KC was riding high at 9-0, en route to a #1 seed.  They were promptly bounced from the playoffs in their first game.

On a related note, guess who's leading the leading in turnover ratio?  Why, Kansas City, of course.

Guess who led in that stat last year?  New England.
2011? San Francisco.
2010? New England, again.
2009? Green Bay.

Average number of playoff games won by those four teams?  0.5.

See, when you win games because you're getting more turnovers than your opponents, when you get to the playoffs and have to play against teams that won't beat themselves for you, you tend to have problems.

KC is winning through a combination of luck, smoke, and mirrors.

Unless any of those teams actually MISSED the playoffs, then they're not a fraud- especially since they will take one of the playoff spots Miami is trying to have. -EK

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Ten years ago, KC was riding high at 9-0, en route to a #1 seed.  They were promptly bounced from the playoffs in their first game.

On a related note, guess who's leading the leading in turnover ratio?  Why, Kansas City, of course.

Guess who led in that stat last year?  New England.
2011? San Francisco.
2010? New England, again.
2009? Green Bay.

Average number of playoff games won by those four teams?  0.5.

See, when you win games because you're getting more turnovers than your opponents, when you get to the playoffs and have to play against teams that won't beat themselves for you, you tend to have problems.

KC is winning through a combination of luck, smoke, and mirrors.

This thread is not discussion if KC will win the SB, but if Miami is going to make the playoffs.  While KC is a long shot to win the SB, or for that matter their own division, they are well on their way to securing one of the 6 AFC playoff spots, which makes it harder for Miami to secure one. 

[Spider-Dan]

Making the playoffs as a Wild Card and losing your first game is not any sort of accomplishment.  Hell, when Miami won the division in 2008 (while leading the league in turnover ratio, natch) and promptly got bounced, the only real sense of accomplishment I sensed was a) worst to first! and b) F the Pats.

So to summarize, KC is a fraud and will do nothing of consequence whether they make the playoffs or not.  If their fraudulent run keeps Miami from making the playoffs as a wild card, then so be it; Miami should be worried less about the actions of a team they won't play and more about their remaining games against New England and Cincinnati.

[Sunstroke]

^^^ Even assuming that your crystal ball is perfectly calibrated (unlikely), rather than you just making a wild-ass guess with conviction (more likely), I'd say that going from 2-14 one season to making the playoffs the next season would be considered an accomplishment.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^ Even assuming that your crystal ball is perfectly calibrated (unlikely), rather than you just making a wild-ass guess with conviction (more likely), I'd say that going from 2-14 one season to making the playoffs the next season would be considered an accomplishment.

Something very similar seemed to be the general consensus around these parts in 2008.

[Sunstroke]

^^^ Too generic for me... Are you talking about the Chiefs, Spidey, me or someone/something else entirely with this vague reference?

[Landshark]

^^^ Too generic for me... Are you talking about the Chiefs, Spidey, me or someone/something else entirely with this vague reference?

He's comparing the 2012/2013 Chiefs to the 2007/2008 Dolphins in terms of achievements

[Spider-Dan]

Are you talking about the Chiefs, Spidey, me or someone/something else entirely with this vague reference?

He's talking about the 2008 Dolphins, who actually won their division (a feat which KC looks unlikely to mirror).

And I find it rather bizarre that you feel the need to repeatedly point out that predictions of the future (but apparently only mine, or something) are not guaranteed.  Thanks for the insight!  Hopefully, you have successfully assuaged any despairing Chiefs fan who read my internet forum post and thought their season was over.

[Sunstroke]

And I find it rather bizarre that you feel the need to repeatedly point out that predictions of the future (but apparently only mine, or something) are not guaranteed. 

Put down the cross, Spidey...I slap most people who seem convinced that they can see the future. You aren't special in that regard, just usually a little more long-winded about it.

[Dave Gray]

Take a look at us.  If I'm not mistaken, if the playoffs started today, we'd make it in the 6 spot.  And this is after we've been through the toughest part of the schedule. 

I think that, if you're being honest, you would pick the Dolphins to make the playoffs.  I think that the odds are better than 50/50.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Take a look at us.  If I'm not mistaken, if the playoffs started today, we'd make it in the 6 spot. 

Yes. 

And this is after we've been through the toughest part of the schedule. 

Not so sure of this.

You still have the Pat (5-1) (x2), Bengals (4-2), and several games against 3-3 teams.  And I wouldn't look past the Steelers despite their 1-4 record.

I think that, if you're being honest, you would pick the Dolphins to make the playoffs.  I think that the odds are better than 50/50.

I would put it at about 50/50.

[fyo]

I would put it at about 50/50.

I'd put our chance of getting in with a 10-6 record at 50/50 the way things look right now.

And I don't think we're more than 50/50 to reach 10 wins.

[EKnight]

I'd put our chance of getting in with a 10-6 record at 50/50 the way things look right now.

And I don't think we're more than 50/50 to reach 10 wins.

This. I still think Miami finishes below .500 for the year. Last year at 4-3 you guys were having the same discussion and they shit the bed against the Colts, Titans, and Bills, and never recovered. -EK

[MikeO]

Take a look at us.  If I'm not mistaken, if the playoffs started today, we'd make it in the 6 spot.  And this is after we've been through the toughest part of the schedule. 

I think that, if you're being honest, you would pick the Dolphins to make the playoffs.  I think that the odds are better than 50/50.

Unless people thought the Dolphins were going 14-2 or better this year....what Dave wrote is 100% correct. There is no shame in losing AT the Saints or to the defending champs in a tight game. Especially for a team still rebuilding like Miami. It's not like they lost to garbage teams!!

The schedule gets easier. The Jets (x2), Bills (x2), Tampa, Carolina, and Pitt aren't world beaters, in fact those are some really bad teams. That doesn't mean Miami will run the table in those games, they will probably lose 1 or 2 in that bunch, hey any given Sunday right. Maybe Miami even get swept by the Pats too, who knows. But this gloom and doom is crazy after 2 loses to quality opponents. The tough part of the schedule is behind the Fins. That is a fact! No denying that. The Fins will be ok and will push 9 or 10 wins unless there are a rash of injuries or they totally implode. Which I don't see them imploding.

[Dave Gray]

I see 10 wins.  I think that's the most realistic expectation at this point.  But, you can steal a win against either Pats or San Diego or Cincy, you can get to 11.  Just as easily, you can drop a game against one of the poorer teams, of course.