Stone-hands Wallace

[EKnight]

He doesn't get off with me.  This and his shenanigans in week one, being escorted off the the field -- I don't care for either of those.

Thank you for backing me on this. I don't see his behavior on the field as any different than many other diva receivers who at least produce, but there seems to be a blind eye to this around here. -EK

[masterfins]

Since Marshall has been in Chicago, he's a top 5 in the league receiver, with no issues that I can recall off the field or with teammates. What is Chicago doing that Miami failed to do in managing him? -EK

Marshall has been able to resume his bro-mance with Cutler from the Denver days.

[masterfins]

Thank you for backing me on this. I don't see his behavior on the field as any different than many other diva receivers who at least produce, but there seems to be a blind eye to this around here. -EK

There hasn't been any "blind eye" towards Wallace's week #1 tantrum around here, you just didn't read the forums that week because the Dolphins won.

[Brian Fein]

There hasn't been any "blind eye" towards Wallace's week #1 tantrum around here, you just didn't read the forums that week because the Dolphins won.

Bingo.

[EKnight]

Odd, since I posted about a dozen times in the thread regarding his backpedaling about the comments he made. Seems like I pointed out that he is pretty over rated in THAT thread, too, and got killed for it.

"Mike Wallace cashed in on an amazing season, 3 seasons ago. In his past 25 games, he's averaging less than 50 yards per game and has 11 TDs (and that's with a MUCH better QB throwing him the ball), and he's been as much of a head case since he got to Miami as that certain other WR who was traded and has had 17 TDs and nearly a 90 ypg average during that same time.

Good for him to get a massive contract- but anyone who thinks he's an upgrade over Marshall on or off the field is in for a long year. -EK"

"What we CAN say about Wallace I've already pointed out- he hasn't been producing for quite a while now. 25 games at 51 yards per game is supposed to be an elite caliber receiver? Not so much."

"you don't pay a receiver $60 million to be a decoy. You pay that kind of money to produce- which he hasn't done in quite a while (how does know one see this??). If at the end of the year, Wallace has between 750-800 yards receiving, and Hartline finishes as a 1000 yard guy, where's the return on investment? Hartline did that last year WITHOUT Wallace, so how's the team improved? If you get the same production from Wallace that you did from Bess last year (778 yards) for $45 million more dollars- money that clearly could have been better spent on O-line- no one is going to look at the Wallace signing as a success. 15-50 yards per game can't possibly be what Miami was hoping for."

"They didn't win because of Wallace; I'm not entirely sure they didn't win in spite of him missing at least one very long pass."

^^ Those are only about HALF of the posts from the first two pages of a six page thread. And what was the response?

"Wallace is great! He has 4.4 speed and stretches the field. He's been good for the entire time he's played football. You have to ignore the past season and a half and only look at when he was good to get accurate stats!" -EK

[Spider-Dan]

EKnight most definitely did read and post after the Dolphins' week 1 win: he found a thread complaining about Wallace and contributed regularly.  But there was no thread bashing some Dolphin or another after weeks 2 and 3, which might be why you don't recall seeing him then.

[fyo]

I'm extremely tired of hearing tv broadcasters talking about Wallace and Tannehill not being "on the same page" because balls keep hitting a professional catcher in the hands and he's not catching them.  They've played together for months, I doubt there's any issue of being on the same page.

Tannehill has underthrown Wallace half a dozen times so far, almost like he doesn't have a feel for Wallace's speed.

Tannehill hasn't hit Wallace cleanly on a single crossing route so far, always placing the ball behind him, almost like he doesn't have a feel for Wallace's speed.

Wallace never seems prepared for where the ball comes, when it actually comes close enough to him to be catchable, almost like he isn't used to catching passes from Tannehill.

Wallace has a habit of running a completely different route than what Tannehill appeared to be expecting (I seem to recall about one a game).

None of these problems seem to exist with any regularity with any of the other receivers on the roster.

All of these combine to give the perception (real or not) that Wallace and Tannehill are not "on the same page".

[MikeO]

EKnight most definitely did read and post after the Dolphins' week 1 win: he found a thread complaining about Wallace and contributed regularly.  But there was no thread bashing some Dolphin or another after weeks 2 and 3, which might be why you don't recall seeing him then.

ha ha ha....so true!

[EKnight]

Mike Wallace: free agency flop!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000274269/article/is-mike-wallace-a-freeagent-flop-for-miami-dolphins


"To Warner's point, Wallace was arguably the NFL's most dangerous deep threat over a 12-game stretch from 2010 to 2011, when he reeled off nine 100-yard games. In 36 games since, he's reached 100 yards just five times. He's been held under 50 yards in nearly half of those 36 games."

Gee that sounds familiar.

He also has seven drops this season, third in the league, and is rated by PFF as the 103rd receiver in the league (out of 108).

"Wallace, given a $60 million ($27 million guaranteed) contract by the Dolphins to be the team’s deep threat, has caught a pass for more than 15 yards in just four of seven games this season. He’s caught a pass for more than 25 yards in just three games.

Wallace is 17th in the NFL in targets with 63, so it’s not like the Dolphins aren’t looking for him. But he’s caught just 48 percent of the passes thrown to him which is 94th in the NFL. He has 30 receptions. His former Steelers teammate Antonio Brown has caught 81 percent of passes thrown at him which is 2nd in the NFL. Brown has 56 receptions on 69 targets."

Solid investment there. -EK

[fyo]

Has he been successful with the Dolphins? No.

Could he have had several 50+ yard touchdowns had Tannehill been able to hit him on long passes where he had clearly beaten his coverage? Yes.

[CF DolFan]

Has he been successful with the Dolphins? No.

Could he have had several 50+ yard touchdowns had Tannehill been able to hit him on long passes where he had clearly beaten his coverage? Yes.

He would have to catch them first which is a 50/50 bet at best.

[dolphins4life]

Any videos of these passes where he was open?