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« on: October 08, 2013, 05:21:11 pm »

I was really angry at the officiating this weekend.  Miami got rooked and the yesterday the Falcons had two awful OPI calls at critical moments
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2013, 09:09:20 pm »

I was really angry at the officiating this weekend.  Miami got rooked and the yesterday the Falcons had two awful OPI calls at critical moments
That's not the AFCE, that's the NFL. Pass interference is probably the least consistently called infraction in the NFL and yes that includes Offensive Holding which seems to have actually gotten much more consistent lately.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 12:02:16 am »

They should have a rule where Pass interference on plays that will advance the ball over 30 yards should be review-able. I mean you can't review every pass interference, it will slow down the game. But if it is going to move the ball over 30 yards a coach should have a right to challenge it. That's such a big chunk of yardage that if its a BS call a coach should be able to fight it if he feels he is in the right and is getting a bad PI call.

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2013, 04:04:54 am »

Judgement calls are never reviewable.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2013, 09:01:32 am »

Judgement calls are never reviewable.
I know. ..and they should change that
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 09:09:52 am »

I'd likely say they may have been two of the worst calls all weekend and they happened on the same drive. It was terrible.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2013, 09:30:37 am »

Or they could adopt the college rule. 15 yds and a 1st down. Then again, this is The Offense Only NFL.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 11:19:29 am »

The Ravens got 55 yards for free on that drive.  How does that not directly impact a game's outcome?  No team can overcome that kind of damage in such a close game.

You could probably just throw bombs every play and you'd get a PI 1 out of 4 times and advance the ball that way.  Occasionally your guy might actually beat someone and make a legit catch.

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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2013, 09:09:41 pm »

They should have a rule where Pass interference on plays that will advance the ball over 30 yards should be review-able. I mean you can't review every pass interference, it will slow down the game. But if it is going to move the ball over 30 yards a coach should have a right to challenge it. That's such a big chunk of yardage that if its a BS call a coach should be able to fight it if he feels he is in the right and is getting a bad PI call.
Actually I think they ought to change the rule to a 15 yard penalty unless it's determined that it was intentional like if you grab the guy while he's running by you or something. That wouldn't fix it completely, but I think that would help. Too many ticky tack pass interference calls that result in 30 yard gains while sometimes guys are mugged and no call. And offensive pass interference should result in a 10 yard penalty and a loss of down. Take back some of the edge that the offensive guy has and give it back to the DB to give him a fighting chance and I think you'd see a better overall game.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 11:31:12 am »

I'm glad I'm not the only one pissed about this.  Those 3 PI calls (the 3 that gave the stalling Ravens 55 yards and a TD and the non-call where Wallace got raked across both arms) really cost us the game.  I feel that we outplayed the Ravens and should've been up 2 scores with the ball, where they'd been able to do nothing offensively.

I feel like it changed the whole game and took the wind out of our sails.

Strangely, in our 3 wins, we got outplayed.  In this loss, we outplayed our opponent.  I guess it all evens out.
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2013, 02:07:17 pm »



Strangely, in our 3 wins, we got outplayed.  In this loss, we outplayed our opponent.  I guess it all evens out.

I think there's something to be said about this. It's noteworthy, too that since the in the 2 losses, Miami has been outscored 37-17 in the second half. In the 3 wins? They outscored their opponents 41-16. If you set yourself up to win, the awful calls are far less impactful. If you give up a ton of points and let your opponent win, they become a topic of discussion. -EK
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, 02:31:10 pm »

^^^What happens when those calls directly lead to the score being what it is though? It is circular logic.
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2013, 02:49:05 pm »

^^^What happens when those calls directly lead to the score being what it is though? It is circular logic.

Very circular logic
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, 02:53:51 pm »

^^^What happens when those calls directly lead to the score being what it is though? It is circular logic.


They led to exactly 7 points. What about the other ones? What about the lack of scoring Miami has had in the second half? If you set yourself up to win by scoring as much in the second half of your games as you do in the first half, there is no substantial discussion of "bad calls."

Were ALL of the points scored by the opposition because of bad calls? Likewise, did the refs in some manner make the Dolphins offense become anemic in the second half of the two losses? -EK
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, 03:14:45 pm »

I do not remember any discussion of bad calls after the New Orleans loss. We flat out got owned in that game and that is where the bulk of you misguided scoring imbalance comes from.

The discussion is about bad calls in one particular game that led to Miami being outscored in that one game.

You are taking stats from a game not even in the discussion and twisting it to try and make it sound like our bad call discussion doesn't matter because Miami has been terrible in second halves.
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