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« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2013, 06:55:34 pm »
Quote from: Spider-Dan on October 26, 2013, 06:34:11 pm
A payout would not only fail to solve the issue, it would likely make it worse.

Exactly the point I was making above. Now, anything is possible, and I make no claims to clairvoyance, but no matter how creative I get with writing an ending to this story, a payout just doesn't add up to anything that seems like it could exist in the really-real world.

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« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2013, 08:39:05 pm »
Suddenly me and my Creek great-grandmother are offended by the "Redskin" name.  I've never been so offended in all my life!!!!
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« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2013, 09:18:24 pm »

^^^ Ch-ching!!
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« Reply #78 on: November 02, 2013, 10:37:26 am »
Nothing came of the meeting this week. The Oneida Indian Nation left the meeting and said they are disappointed and now wants to meet with all 32 owners (good luck with that) and the league and Redskins are standing strong over not changing the name.

This might drag out a while
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« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2013, 02:27:27 pm »
Quote from: Spider-Dan on October 21, 2013, 11:20:17 am
If we agree that the term is inappropriate to apply to a person, we shouldn't be using it for a team mascot.
Why? We aren't applying it to a person, but rather a team mascot. My wife grew up in a town called Frisco Tx. Her highschool had a raccoon as a mascot and they were called the Frisco 'Coons for years and then someone got the idea that 'Coons was racist even though it wasn't because it was short for raccoons, but they made a big enough fuss about it that they eventually changed the official name to Frisco Raccoons although many still call them the Frisco 'Coons. In my opinion if you see "racist" where there isn't any, then it's you that has the problem, not the other way around.
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« Reply #80 on: November 02, 2013, 02:46:28 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on October 26, 2013, 12:27:48 pm
Yep...there is only one correct answer to the question "how do you stop people from being offended by the name?"

Change the name.
Won't stop people from just finding something else to be offended by. It doesn't really solve the problem, it just kicks the problem down the road a bit.
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« Reply #81 on: November 02, 2013, 02:58:31 pm »
Quote from: Pappy13 on November 02, 2013, 02:46:28 pm
Won't stop people from just finding something else to be offended by. It doesn't really solve the problem, it just kicks the problem down the road a bit.

I didn't say that changing the name would stop everyone from being offended by anything... Just this particular offense, and just these particular people offended by it.
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« Reply #82 on: November 11, 2013, 04:59:25 pm »
Why change the name? Just change the logo, changes the meaning completely. Problem easily solved!
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« Reply #83 on: November 11, 2013, 10:11:36 pm »
Quote from: pondwater on November 11, 2013, 04:59:25 pm
Why change the name? Just change the logo, changes the meaning completely. Problem easily solved!


Thats a great logo if Boise ever gets an NFL franchise
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« Reply #84 on: November 12, 2013, 11:15:04 am »
Quote from: pondwater on November 11, 2013, 04:59:25 pm
Why change the name? Just change the logo, changes the meaning completely. Problem easily solved!


I know that this was meant as a joke, but honestly, if the Redskins originally was a potato reference, then I'd have no problem with it at all.  I think that there will always be someone who is offended about something.  But I think you have to look at if the case is legitimate or intentional or rooted in some other racism and make smart decisions.  You can't be afraid to make a change one-direction or another because of a slippery slope.
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« Reply #85 on: November 12, 2013, 12:04:21 pm »
Quote from: Dave Gray on November 12, 2013, 11:15:04 am
I know that this was meant as a joke, but honestly, if the Redskins originally was a potato reference, then I'd have no problem with it at all.  I think that there will always be someone who is offended about something.  But I think you have to look at if the case is legitimate or intentional or rooted in some other racism and make smart decisions.  You can't be afraid to make a change one-direction or another because of a slippery slope.
Instead of me re reading the entire thread. From this post, I take it that you have a problem with the name. Is that a safe assumption?
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« Reply #86 on: November 12, 2013, 12:12:10 pm »
Quote from: pondwater on November 12, 2013, 12:04:21 pm
Instead of me re reading the entire thread. From this post, I take it that you have a problem with the name. Is that a safe assumption?

No, I don't personally have an issue with the name, but I certainly understand why people would.  I just think that if you are named after a racial slur and it offends people, it's a foregone conclusion that the name will have to go away, tradition or not.  ...just do it now and move on.  That's more of a business opinion than anything.
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