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[Brian Fein]

Two QB's

QB1 - 55% Completions for 244 yd/game, 8 TD, 5 INT, 75.3 QB Rating
QB2 - 61% Completions for 263 yd/game, 9 TD, 7 INT, 83.1 QB Rating

Which one is "future hall of famer" and which one is "second year starter?"

Brady has had 6 bad games so far this season.  Just ask my fantasy team.

[EKnight]

Surprised no one has mentioned this either, but the beating Tannehill is taking is apparently starting to take it's toll, as ESPN and NBC are reporting he was limited in practice this week wit a shoulder injury. -EK

[MikeO]

Two QB's

QB1 - 55% Completions for 244 yd/game, 8 TD, 5 INT, 75.3 QB Rating
QB2 - 61% Completions for 263 yd/game, 9 TD, 7 INT, 83.1 QB Rating

Which one is "future hall of famer" and which one is "second year starter?"

Brady has had 6 bad games so far this season.  Just ask my fantasy team.

Brady has been bad this season (not really his fault his supporting cast has sucked) but with Gronk back and if Amendola can stay healthy he will have a full supporting cast ready to roll. That's the thing about QB's, whether its Brady, Tannehill, or anyone else. Without a supporting cast they can't do it alone. Even one of the greatest QB's ever will struggle when his offense around him is stripped down to next to nothing.

[el diablo]

Two QB's

QB1 - 55% Completions for 244 yd/game, 8 TD, 5 INT, 75.3 QB Rating
QB2 - 61% Completions for 263 yd/game, 9 TD, 7 INT, 83.1 QB Rating

Which one is "future hall of famer" and which one is "second year starter?"

Brady has had 6 bad games so far this season.  Just ask my fantasy team.

Against Miami. Or is that still asking too much?

[Sunstroke]

if Amendola can stay healthy...

On the Cosmic List of Improbabilities, this lies right between "if pigs could fly" and "if Hell freezes over."

If Amendola sneezed really hard, he'd hyper-extend his sphincter...

[fyo]

Brady has been bad this season (not really his fault his supporting cast has sucked)

Brady has been bad this season and, fortunately for the Dolphins, a lot of it HAS been his fault. He has been overthrowing and mistiming plays in a very uncharacteristic manner (when you overthrow someone 3-4 yards out of bounds, it's not a "timing" issue).

Unfortunately for the Dolphins, Gronk is back and even an unsteady performance from Brady is likely to be enough to win.

Overall, the Patriots present a bad matchup for the Dolphins:

-> Patriots have a really good pass D this year, even better than their 11th best in passing yards allowed would indicate. Conversely, their rushing D is worse than their 18th in allowed rushing yards indicate. Unfortunately, the Dolphins still can run worth a damn.

-> The Patriots one glaring weakness against the pass has been passes to #2 receivers (where they are actually dead last). Against #1s, TEs, running backs, and everything else, they've been a top-5 pass D. I'm not convinced Tannehill and Sherman can find a way to exploit that "narrow" weakness and the weak O-line will allow the Patriots to scheme at least partially around it.

-> We like to think the Dolphins are good at getting to opposing quarterbacks. The stats don't really back this up, though. 17 sacks is below league average and the Dolphins have seen more passing plays than most teams. Meanwhile, the Patriots have only allowed 11 sacks. The only bright spot is that injuries are a problem for the Pats O-line, so it hopefully isn't as good as it's season average (4 sacks allowed last week would seem to indicate as much).

I think there's a very real chance the Dolphins get run over tomorrow. Hopefully it won't come to that, but to have a chance to win, the Dolphins would have to play a lot of mistake free football (not what they've been doing recently, at any position) and hope the Patriots' woes with #2 receivers (technically Hartline) continues. On defense, the Dolphins really need the pass rush to step it up. Wake vs Vollmer has been a classic matchup for a while now and Wake needs to win this time around.

PATS: 27
PHINS: 20

[MikeO]

Wake vs Vollmer has been a classic matchup for a while now and Wake needs to win this time around.

If Wake only plays 22 snaps like he did last week, he will be a non-factor. Gotta feeling this injury Wake has will limit him all year. Might be a lost year for him

[fyo]

If Wake only plays 22 snaps like he did last week, he will be a non-factor. Gotta feeling this injury Wake has will limit him all year. Might be a lost year for him

Wake was listed as questionable yesterday, but has been upgraded to probable today and he's listed as having participated fully in practice.

Local media have reported Philbin claiming Wake was 100%, but that he (Philbin) didn't want to risk pushing him last week. This week, though, Philbin expected Wake to get his usual workload.

Personally, I'm just as worried about Ellerbe, particularly against the Patriots with Gronk back. Ellerbe usually handles a lot of cleanup short middle. The Dolphins are last in the league vs tight ends, so any injuries there are going to hurt a lot.

[jbphinner]

We have no shot, unless we unleash the wildcat again. Oh wait we cant do that much less block anyone. We should give matt moore a shot at least he can throw the deep ball to wallace. Brady is gona carve up our secondary. Tell me again why we kept some of the secondary guys and let go smith and davis? We need to trade solia or starks for a rb or more oline help.

[Tenshot13]

We have no shot, unless we unleash the wildcat again. Oh wait we cant do that much less block anyone. We should give matt moore a shot at least he can throw the deep ball to wallace. Brady is gona carve up our secondary. Tell me again why we kept some of the secondary guys and let go smith and davis? We need to trade solia or starks for a rb or more oline help.

I don't think I can post anything regarding this without it being a personal attack, so I'll just say I disagree.

[fyo]

We have no shot, unless we unleash the wildcat again. Oh wait we cant do that much less block anyone. We should give matt moore a shot at least he can throw the deep ball to wallace. Brady is gona carve up our secondary. Tell me again why we kept some of the secondary guys and let go smith and davis? We need to trade solia or starks for a rb or more oline help.

This has to be trolling, right?

[Brian Fein]

Sadly there are members of the Dolphins fan community who think like this. Its pretty disheartening to hear that the vocal minority who do nothing hut sit in their lay-z-boy and second guess every single decision ever made (apparently including ones that work) are the ones that get attention. Makes the entire fan base look silly.

We all want to win games and trophies, but let's be realistic.

[Cathal]

He's probably right. Their coaching is far superior. That alone will probably win the game for them. This team has shown that they can't hang and beat top tiered teams. It might be competitve for a little while but it won't ever feel like a possible win.

[MikeO]

Sadly there are members of the Dolphins fan community who think like this. Its pretty disheartening to hear that the vocal minority who do nothing hut sit in their lay-z-boy and second guess every single decision ever made (apparently including ones that work) are the ones that get attention. Makes the entire fan base look silly.

We all want to win games and trophies, but let's be realistic.

So true. And as I always say, Football is the most popular sport in America, yet it's also the least understood by its "fans." I mean read some of the posts on this site alone (let alone other message boards of sports teams) and its comical at times (not taking seriously the trolling posts by a select few on this site). People expect miracle turnarounds overnight, people expect 100% of draft picks and free agent pick-up's to be home runs and pro bowl players, people have no patience that when you draft a young QB he will take a couple years before they "put it all together." And fans always find the "one or two exceptions" in the near 100 year history of the NFL and want lightening to strike twice just for them and their team instead of having a common sense logical approach of how teams are built. I know its been a rough decade plus for Dolphins fans, but when they hired Philbin and started a rookie QB did you honestly expect them to be competing for a Super Bowl in year 2? You gotta be kidding me. And sometimes it is 2 steps forward, 1 step back. With lot of teams its like that. If some of the people on this site were Colts fans in 1998 they would have been ready to throw Peyton Manning to the curb after he threw 28 INT's as a rookie and was back up to 23 INT's come year 4!!Or after Troy Aikman threw 18 INT's as a rookie and a 2nd year QB and he didn't even play full seasons, fans on this site back in that day would be ready to take another QB in Rd 1 and give up quickly. When the Dolphins got rid of Dansby, Burnett, Bush, and other "older" players and went young they did it for a reason. They want to build something long-term that can sustain success. And going young means growing pains especially in this day of age where roster turnover from year to year is great and practice time is reduced. The Ravens and Bills games are living proof of it. The Fins were good enough to win those games, but young players and mistakes cost them the win. It happens. As long as you don't see the same mistakes over and over again, ya take your licks and live with it with a young team.

Fins will probably lose to NE today, and might lose to Cincy on Thursday. And at 3-5 some Dolphins fans (not the trollers) will want everyone fired, a handful of guys benched or cut, everyone will "suck"....this website will turn into a comedy website with nonsense and foolishness being posted. With $20 mill under the cap and a young core to build around who will get better in time.....if Ross rocks this boat and goes knee-jerk reaction stuff like idiot fans think, he is out of his mind! If the Fins go 3-13 or 4-12 that's one thing and might be time to re-evaluate. Great football teams aren't built overnight. And you can't revamp and entire roster overnight either in this league. And what this roster was in Sparano's last year to what it is today is night and friggin day!  It takes a draft or two before you see results from all your rookies.

It makes no sense and is down right funny that when fans come here in August predict the Fins to win 7, 8, or 9 games and point out flaws....then FLIP OUT in October when they are 3-3 and on pace to what they predicted! Why are you upset, you are what you thought they would be!!! It's comical. All of the fans on this site (once again, not the trollers) wants the team to win and what not....but patience.  Even at 3-0 they weren't gonna win the Super Bowl this year.

The Giants were ready to run Tom Coughlin out of town and give up on Eli back in the day...they didn't. They stuck with those 2 and in time look what it got them. Not saying Philbin and Tannehill are Coughlin and Eli and Miami will win multiple super bowl, but the bigger point is you don't give up on "the plan" after a year and a half and after a rough patch. Successful franchises just don't. There is a reason the Pittsburgh Steelers have had 3 head coaches since 1969 and have been successful!!

[dolphins4life]

Good start by the defense