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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2013, 04:35:37 pm »

Jake Long's replacement didn't arrive until last week. Martin is not an NFL LT. They were hoping Martin would improve. Didn't happen. They were trying to get Albert to play LT, not right. At the same time if you don't run effectively, teams will tee off on whatever pass protection you have. This team just sucks at pass protection.
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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2013, 04:49:13 pm »

Fine, you're welcome to your opinion, but I disagree with you.  Martin is just fine at LT.  He's not the problem with this o-line.
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2013, 05:16:43 pm »

Fine, you're welcome to your opinion, but I disagree with you.  Martin is just fine at LT.  He's not the problem with this o-line.

I disagree.  Martin is a great Right Tackle, but not a great Left Tackle.  The only reason he appears okay at Left Tackle is because Clabo was so horrible at right tackle that teams focused on that weakness.
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2013, 05:27:08 pm »

Long was offered a contract to be the highest paid offensive linemen in NFL history last September prior to the start of the season. He said NO! Wanted to play out the year. He had a bad year and was always injured, come March that same deal was pulled from the table (WITH GOOD REASON)....Long was pissed and wasn't going to sign here. He used Miami to get as much as he could out of the Rams.

100% agree.  Long took the risk of not signing the contract in Sept 2012, and then got his panties in a twist when things went the other way.  I wanted Long back as much as anybody, but not at the salary he was demanding.

However, Philbin/Ireland did miscalculate what the abilities of the O-line they had were, but they did put some effort into finding a replacement for Long.  Keller's injury at TE was another unforeseen problem (although I liked Fasano and thought they should keep him).  Running back is the position that has been a TOTAL FAILURE in handling.  Drafted Miller and Thomas, neither have panned out... whether due to injuries, coaching, or just poor expectations; while letting Bush walk away with zero effort to re-sign.
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2013, 05:29:23 pm »

For me,  it's not about individual transactions and players. It's the overall talent on the feild. This team does not have more talent now than it did when Ireland took over in my opinion. Ireland has had four years to get that done and hasn't done it. It's nothing personal against the guy, but at some point you just got to move on.
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2013, 05:31:57 pm »

However, Philbin/Ireland did miscalculate what the abilities of the O-line they had were, but they did put some effort into finding a replacement for Long.  Keller's injury at TE was another unforeseen problem (although I liked Fasano and thought they should keep him).  Running back is the position that has been a TOTAL FAILURE in handling.  Drafted Miller and Thomas, neither have panned out... whether due to injuries, coaching, or just poor expectations; while letting Bush walk away with zero effort to re-sign.
^^ Right!  I think they thought more of Miller than he is ready for.  He may be a decent back but needs to be in a mix with another guy like Spiller/Jackson or Mathews/Woodhead/Brown or the NE carousel.  Miller isn't ready to be a feature back.

I thought Bush proved he could handle the load, and took pressure off the o-line as a respected weapon out of the backfield.  I think this was a big mis-step, and its showing now.  The absence of a running game is absolutely a contributor to the o-line problems.  No way to control the clock, nothing to keep them from full-on blitzing every down.

I think this is a bigger contributor than many people realize.
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2013, 07:04:46 pm »

^^^^ Now take how you feel about Bush & combine that with a better LT. Teams would have to respect that threat. This means Tannehill has more time to go through progressions. Wallace is open more. Tannehill has time to find him. Defenses can't just spread out our O-line. This is what Ireland & Co. couldn't see. They only saw $$$$. As in how not to spend it.
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2013, 08:01:35 pm »

I disagree.  Martin is a great Right Tackle, but not a great Left Tackle.  The only reason he appears okay at Left Tackle is because Clabo was so horrible at right tackle that teams focused on that weakness.

Agree... It's like having an average looking woman standing next to a total woofer. The average looking woman suddenly appears to be much hotter than she actually is.

Martin is not a quality left tackle...

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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2013, 01:43:11 am »

def. a stupid idea to give the guy extension after just 3 games!! whats the point? if the owner, S.Ross was that happy with his GM, at least wait till the end of the season so u dont just waste ur money away. For some reason Ireland cant get it done as a GM down in Miami. Just like someone mentioned earlier, every year its same b.s. They improve one area of the football team but screw up the other (o-line). Miami hasnt improved its team as a whole, overall, from one year to the next in forever it seems. And it seems like every year they draft a O-line guys and still struggle. should have kept Jake Long thats for sure.
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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2013, 06:37:10 am »

The Dolphins gave general manager Randy Mueller an extension just months before he was terminated in favor of Ireland.
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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2013, 07:12:23 am »

Seriously what did you guys expect from Miller? Some people are never happy. I said last season before they even let Bush walk that Miller would be a liability because he can't pass block and had been in the doghouse for that very reason. All I heard back was that Bush is older and injury prone and would cost too much, and Miller was a speed demon home run threat 4th round steal. You don't make Miller your starting RB based on a handful of carries and "potential" when you have a back as versatile as Bush. But when they let Bush walk, I didn't hear anyone indignantly protesting or complaining about the move. Now he's going off every week in Detroit and Miami can't run or block and suddenly hindsight is 20/20. You can't blame Ireland for making a move that Dolphin fans were on board with. The same can be said with Long. -EK
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« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2013, 11:10:03 am »

def. a stupid idea to give the guy extension after just 3 games!! whats the point?

This just proves that people read what they want to read, and don't understand.

For the 30th time, Ireland got an extension in the offseason, AFTER LAST SEASON.

But when they let Bush walk, I didn't hear anyone indignantly protesting or complaining about the move.

Selective memory.  You're wrong, I was very vocal on these very forums about re-signing bush (and Jake, for that matter).  I don't have time (or desire) to go back and find it.
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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2013, 11:14:51 am »

This just proves that people read what they want to read, and don't understand.

For the 30th time, Ireland got an extension in the offseason, AFTER LAST SEASON.

Selective memory.  You're wrong, I was very vocal on these very forums about re-signing bush (and Jake, for that matter).  I don't have time (or desire) to go back and find it.

You are banging your head against with wall with some of the people here Brian! Save yourself the aggravation.
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2013, 11:25:16 am »

I like ireland .. i like what he's done with the roster compared to what we had during the parcells era.

I can see what he's trying to accomplish .. i agree with his methods and selections.

He's not a clairvoyant .. and he can't predict the future but i don't have a problem with his moves at all.

Dez Bryan's prostitute mom also isn't an issue for me at all.
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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2013, 11:42:15 am »

^^ This guy gets it...
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