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« on: October 27, 2013, 05:02:57 pm »

Enough of this guy. After having all of this money to spend this past off season we haven't improved at all from last year. We've improved in specific areas but not as an overall team. He can improve certain parts of our team but it's always to the detriment of another part of our team (o-line this year).

We will always be a team that will win 6-8 games with Ireland as the GM.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2013, 05:19:17 pm »

Too bad we gave him an extension after a 3-0 start. It's always a great idea to give someone an extension after a winning streak, just brilliant.

In his defense, as someone else pointed out, Clabo was rated as a pretty good RT last year, so it was a solid pickup at the time.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2013, 05:57:21 pm »

If you don't give coaches or QB's contract extensions during a 3 game win streak, why would you give THIS GM one?
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2013, 07:44:07 pm »

He blew a wad of cash and the results are still the same.  He needs to go.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2013, 06:53:08 am »

Too bad we gave him an extension after a 3-0 start. It's always a great idea to give someone an extension after a winning streak, just brilliant.

In his defense, as someone else pointed out, Clabo was rated as a pretty good RT last year, so it was a solid pickup at the time.

He got the Extension in July. It was announced publicly in September
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2013, 07:53:21 am »

Jeff Ireland isn't the one dropping balls on the field.

Let's focus on getting capable players, and adding to what base we have, instead of resetting to zero and starting all over.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2013, 07:59:50 am »

^^^^ I don't think getting rid of the GM is "resetting to zero". The truth is our draft class did pretty much nothing yesterday. Most of them were not even dressed for the game and the #3 draft pick that we traded up for has yet to become a starter or even play significant time in any game. My understanding was he was drafted for games just like yesterday. Where was he?

I'm a big proponent of allowing people to make mistakes and learn form them but he hasn't found a Zach Thomas or Jason Taylor in his whole time here. Jake Long was his biggest hit and we see where that went.  NFL teams do not survive with mediocre talent.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2013, 02:16:18 pm »

Jeff Ireland isn't the one dropping balls on the field.

Let's focus on getting capable players, and adding to what base we have, instead of resetting to zero and starting all over.

Isn't it the job of the GM to focus on getting capable players? Ireland has been the GM going on four years now and the dolphins haven't had a winning season yet. You got to look at the GM and if he's bringing in enough talent at this point.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2013, 02:32:05 pm »

Isn't it the job of the GM to focus on getting capable players? Ireland has been the GM going on four years now and the dolphins haven't had a winning season yet. You got to look at the GM and if he's bringing in enough talent at this point.

Yep. And when you're given an extension with those results, it lets you know how deep the situation is.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2013, 02:33:10 pm »

He has addressed positions of need, and other areas of need have become apparent.  Last season, our o-line was solid.  So, you're saying it was all thanks to Jake Long?  

Granted, Clabo has been a glaring miss, but I can understand based on the data he had to decide.  

The defense has been solidified, he brought in Gibson and Wallace to address the WR need.  He brought in Ellerbe, Wheeler, and Grimes, to address the defense needs.  He claimed Patterson off waivers and he has been solid.  He brought in Dustin Keller to address the TE need.  He got hurt, it happens.

He has been addressing needs.  Some things work out, some don't.  Don't over-generalize the situation with the broad-sweeping "something's wrong, let's fire the guy in charge."  Look a little deeper.  

My opinion, the ONLY mistake he made this season was letting Reggie Bush walk.  We sure could use that guy right now.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2013, 02:36:03 pm »

If you're going to point a finger at Ireland, I wouldn't look to Bush, I'd look to letting Long get away.  I can't blame him for Clabo -- he was supposed to be good and just didn't come through.
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2013, 02:38:35 pm »

Jake Long has said publicly that he didn't even consider coming back to Miami unless he got an absurd salary.  He wanted to be the highest-paid tackle in NFL history.  He took less money than the Dolphins offered him to go to the Rams.  Ireland wasn't willing to overpay.  Kudos to him for not biting.

Bush, however, wanted to come back to Miami, and we didn't want him.  That is a head-scratcher to me.
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2013, 03:11:09 pm »

Long was offered a contract to be the highest paid offensive linemen in NFL history last September prior to the start of the season. He said NO! Wanted to play out the year. He had a bad year and was always injured, come March that same deal was pulled from the table (WITH GOOD REASON)....Long was pissed and wasn't going to sign here. He used Miami to get as much as he could out of the Rams.
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2013, 04:12:30 pm »

^ This may all be true, but we probably had options to not let him go test free-agency in the first place.  He probably felt disrespected.  It's not just that he didn't get the contract, but it's that our relationship with the player soured in the first place.

I'm not making the argument that we SHOULD have done this, but ultimately, we let our franchise LT get away and now our line is suffering.
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2013, 04:22:57 pm »

The line isn't suffering because of Jake Long leaving.  The plan was in place to replace him.  We had already drafted Jake's replacement.  When he got hurt for the 11 billionth time, his replacement stepped in and did fairly well in his place. 

Why didn't Tannehill get sacked 97 times in the last 5 games last season?  What's different?  Is Clabo that much worse than Nate Garner?  They are all the same guys...
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