Rooting against your own team?

[EKnight]

Where does this notion that Manning sucked his rookie year keep coming from? He threw a ton of interceptions, but he also set 4 NFL rookie records:
Most touchdown passes: 26
Most consecutive games with a touchdown pass: 13
Most games with at least one touchdown pass: 15
Most games with 300+ yards passing: 4

Manning didn't have some huge transformation. He was setting records in his first year and a Pro Bowl-er in year two. People get all caught up on the INTs, but he was light years ahead of anybody Miami has had in the past decade. I could totally see how you'd pull for Miami to win the Luck sweepstakes. At the rate they're going, though, they will be able to try again in a few years. -EK

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^^ Curious that you decided to respond to a tangent than the thread question given your history. 

[EKnight]

Why is that curious? It's consistent with my "history" insofar as people love to point to Tannehill's poor development and say, "well Manning stunk his rookie year, too," when, in fact, he had one of the better rookie seasons for a QB in recent memory. -EK

[Tenshot13]

Really?  Am I a shitty fan?

I watch every game even when we are terrible, I buy Dolphins gear worth probably tens of thousands of dollars over my lifetime, I have had season tickets multiple times, I create and run a website that I visit daily to pour my love into the team.  I cried when we got our one win in the 1-15 season.  ...but I'm a shitty fan because I see our path to success coming from a different direction than you do?

That just comes off as ridiculous to me.

Wanting your team to lose is, in essence, giving up on your team.  Wanting them to win or lose is not going to affect the outcome, so why not root for them to win, and let things play out?  I find it ridiculous that you or anyone would want to root against your own team.  My opinion may not be very popular, but that's what I believe.

[Landshark]

If Ryan Tannehill doesn't get it together next year, it may be wise to "Lose A Ton for Winston"

[dolphins4life]

^^^^

I hate those slogans

[MikeO]

^^^^

I hate those slogans

yeah none of them are funny. Suck for Luck was cute and clever.... ever since they are all lame

[Landshark]

 

yeah none of them are funny. Suck for Luck was cute and clever.... ever since they are all lame

You may be right but the more I see Famous Jameis play, the more I want to have him in aqua and orange in two years.

[Pappy13]

It's only weird if it doesn't work.

[Dave Gray]

I wouldn't want to lose on purpose for a player.  ...and I wouldn't even want us to lose at any other time.  But I think Luck is a once in a generation talent that would've made us immediately relevant.  Of course, I could be wrong about him and we could turn out fine without him. 

But it's not giving up.  I am still rooting for big picture success.  I just think that you needed to take a step back to take two steps forward.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I wouldn't want to lose on purpose for a player.  ...and I wouldn't even want us to lose at any other time.  But I think Luck is a once in a generation talent that would've made us immediately relevant.  Of course, I could be wrong about him and we could turn out fine without him. 

I won't root against my own team.....but I would say that in order these are the least valid reason to root against your own team:

1) Losing will hurt a rival.  (E.g. rooting for the Bengals last night because a Dolphin's win helps NE's hopes for a bye)  This is doubly bad if you have not yet been mathematically eliminated from the post-season. 

2) Losing will prove you right.  (E.g. a Patriots fan rooting for the Bills because he thought BB traded the wrong QB in the 2002 off season)

3) You want a player/coach you don't like fired. (E.g. Rooting against the Dolphins b/c you hate Ireland or Tannihill.)

4) Improve your draft position.  (Suck for Luck)

5) You like the post season match up that a loss would create.  (See NE 2005 vs Fins) a loss resulted in them hosting Jax instead of Steelers.    (I was still rooting for NE to win, but I am not sure if BB was)

[Brian Fein]

Dolphins fans need to read #3 and realize what they are doing.  Good list.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Dolphins fans need to read #3 and realize what they are doing.  Good list.

I think there is a fair amount of #2 going on as well. 

[Brian Fein]

I think there is a fair amount of #2 going on as well. 

Agreed, but its slightly different if, let's say, the Dolphins played the Lions and you are rooting for Reggie Bush to run for 300+ yards and 5 TD's...  The spirit is the same, though, if you are rooting for Tannehill to throw picks.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Agreed, but its slightly different if, let's say, the Dolphins played the Lions and you are rooting for Reggie Bush to run for 300+ yards and 5 TD's...  The spirit is the same, though, if you are rooting for Tannehill to throw picks.

It really comes down to your motivation......

If you were rooting for him in 2012 and have only now concluded he sucks it is #3

However, if you started  rooting against him back in 2012 b/c you didn't like the draft pick it is #2, not #3.