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« on: November 05, 2013, 04:14:24 pm »

As Incognito gets thrown under the bus by the NFL maybe people will listen to the guys who actually know him. Like I said I don't know how you can punish him when much of the league behaves similarly.


Mike Wallace is being interviewed and says he loves Richie and wishes he was still there.
 
http://www.nfl.com/videos/miami-dolphins/0ap2000000276797/Wallace-I-wish-Richie-was-here


Richie Incognito has support in Dolphins' locker room

The Miami Dolphins acted swiftly in their handling of Richie Incognito on Sunday, suspending the veteran guard indefinitely for his role in Jonathan Martin's absence from the team.


It's a nightmare situation for the Dolphins, who are dealing with a complicated and delicate personnel matter smack in the middle of the regular season. NFL Media's Jeff Darlington asked players about the situation during a visit to the Miami locker room Monday.

"I know both of those guys personally. I like both of them," said wide receiver Mike Wallace, who added he doesn't believe the team's pranks and hazing went too far. "I love Richie. I think he's a great guy. I don't think he was out of hand. I have a lot of respect for Richie. I wish he was here."

Cornerback Will Davis was similarly complimentary of Incognito, though he added he's unsure of the relationship between Incognito and Martin.

NFL Media's Albert Breer reported Monday that Martin shared highly inappropriate texts and voicemails from Incognito with his parents Saturday, and turned them over Sunday to the Dolphins and the league, according to sources close to Martin and involved in the investigation.


"He's a funny guy," Davis said of Incognito. "Everybody loves him."

Defensive end Cameron Wake offered a more guarded response.

"You'd have to ask every guy individually," Wake said. "I can't speak for everyone else."

Incognito lost his organization's support Sunday night, but he appears to have teammates in his corner. It remains to be seen if it stays that way.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000276773/article/richie-incognito-has-support-in-dolphins-locker-room
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2013, 04:23:41 pm »

Another article with more interviews ...

Funny answer from Odrick when asked if Martin would be welcomed back ...Odrick was asked if Martin would be welcomed back. He said he hopes he's able to continue his career the way he wants but he never said yes or even insinuated they would welcome him back.  Shocked

"I hope everything he's going through gets cleared up and he's able to continue his career," Odrick said. "That people are able to continue their careers the way they want to and everything is cleared up. I hope the best for everybody."


AVIE, Fla. -- The Miami Dolphins returned Monday to what several players insisted was a "unified" locker room in which everything was "good."

The Dolphins practiced a day after guard Richie Incognito was suspended indefinitely for conduct detrimental to the team. Incognito's suspension came six days after offensive tackle Jonathan Martin left the team reportedly after persistent bullying from within.

"This is a unified locker room," defensive tackle Jared Odrick said. "We're all happy to come to work today and get better."

"I've been here for quite a while, and the locker room's been fine as far as I'm concerned," defensive end Cameron Wake said. "Then again, you're talking about me, I can't speak for anybody else."

"I think the chemistry is fine, from how I see it," rookie tight end Dion Sims said. "Everybody gets along well, and I think everything is good."

Despite the supposed healthy environment, FOX Sports reported the Dolphins and NFL Players Association were told Incognito sent Martin text messages and left him voicemails that were both threatening and racially charged in nature.

Coach Joe Philbin began his press conference by offering "a little bit of a background" on the past week's events. He said he "had a good discussion" with Martin last Monday evening and was in contact with the player and his family throughout the week and weekend.

"In all my discussions with Jonathan and members of his family, at no time were there any accusations or allegations of misconduct by any members of this team or this organization," Philbin said. "Later on Sunday, we were contacted by one of his representatives where they in fact had some concerns about player conduct that had occurred."

Philbin said Dolphins owner Steve Ross contacted NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and requested the league investigate, which it will. The coach added he suspended Incognito "based on the information that I had at that time."

None of the players who spoke to the media admitted to reading or hearing the texts or voicemails Incognito is alleged to have sent. The players said they had been off enjoying a few off days following Thursday night's win against Cincinnati.

But everyone in locker room Monday knew it was not a normal start to the week. Miami will play at Tampa Bay next Monday night.

"Obviously, there's like 2,000 (media people) in here right now -- that's the only thing really affecting us, that we can't even get dressed," receiver Mike Wallace said. "Besides that, I'm good. I'm ready to move on and look forward to this Monday night game."

Players expressed support for both Martin and Incognito, two men whose lockers looked as if they were still with the team.

"I love Richie, man," Wallace said. "I personally think he's a great guy. He's an intense guy -- everybody knows that. I don't feel like he did anything he wouldn't do on a regular basis. I don't think he was out of hand, I think he just being Richie."

Incognito was one of six players who composed the Dolphins leadership committee.

"I played with him a few years, and he's a helluva football player," Wake said. "He never had a problem with me, but you have to ask every guy individually, and again, I can't speak for anybody else."

"I don't look at him as being a racist or anything like that," said left tackle Bryant McKinnie, acquired from Baltimore on Oct. 21. "It could have been in a joking manner, I don't know how it was delivered or received."

The tone of comments about Martin were more offering concern.

"You never know what somebody's going through," Wallace said, "so I'm not going to jump to conclusions and judge him. Me personally, I'm fine with him."

Odrick was asked if Martin would be welcomed back.

"I hope everything he's going through gets cleared up and he's able to continue his career," Odrick said. "That people are able to continue their careers the way they want to and everything is cleared up. I hope the best for everybody."

Several players said they hadn't realized there was a problem between the two linemen, who played next to each other on the line's left side for the first six games this season.

"It was a good vibe. We never really experienced anything like that," Wallace said. "I feel like it was always a good vibe with the team. You never know what somebody's going through. It's just an unfortunate situation."

"I felt like everybody got along. I didn't see any signs of this potentially happening," McKinnie said. "And as of right now, everybody's still focused on preparing for Tampa Bay. Those guys aren't here right now, so we can't really keep dwelling on that and we don't want it to become a distraction."

Martin reportedly left the team a week ago after a prank in the team's cafeteria.

"People have bad days, maybe it was bad day. He just wasn't feeling it, I really don't know," Wallace said. "I don't feel like it was anything out of the ordinary. I don't feel like anybody was being bullied, hazed, none of that. I feel like we were doing things that football teams do."

Dolphins players downplayed hazing, which has been a common practice in NFL locker rooms, especially where rookies are concerned.

"I haven't experienced anything like that," rookie cornerback Will Davis said. "I've had a great time since I've been here, even with the guys, even with the vets ... this is all kind of a shock to me."

"Everybody that I know has done it," Wake said. "To some degree, it comes back. Maybe I had to buy soap for (Jason Taylor) when he was here, now Dion (Jordan) maybe buys me soap. Is that something I hope he's not having a problem with that you can ask him about. But, at the same time, I'm giving back to him -- maybe it's telling him how to get this play, or maybe where to, hand washing hand."

"It's a fraternity that you benefit from. It's probably the best fraternity that I can think of, and the membership to me is well worth it."

Veteran McKinnie added the fraternity should be able to control itself.

"I feel like the players can police themselves -- that's the sign of a good team," McKinnie said. "Sometimes, you don't have to always run to the coach for everything. Players, your leaderships, should be able to step up and police the situation themselves.

http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/story/Amid-turmoil-Dolphins-players-insist-loc?blockID=958143&feedID=3720

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2013, 04:32:21 pm »

Just so we're clear- this is the same fraternity that has voted him the dirtiest player in football. The same fraternity that he has repeatedly turned against going back to his college days at Nebraska, where he was suspended twice, and Oregon, where he was cut before he had a single practice. The same fraternity that includes the Rams and Bills, who both cut him- not because of lack of talent- but because the guy is basically an asshole. Now Miami players are going to rally around him? The entire team is a disgrace and embarrasment for the league with this thing. -EK
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2013, 04:41:22 pm »

The one common theme I keep hearing from Dolphins players is "how bout you media guys leave us alone so that we can do our jobs, please?"

Maybe they should take the hint.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2013, 04:50:43 pm »

I'm waiting to hear what Jake Long has to say about playing with Incognito, it's only a matter of time before they ask him.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2013, 06:12:12 pm »

And outside the locker room too. Former player Ricky Williams who suffered from his own demons weighs in on the topic. While he doesn't support what Incognito did, he understands it happens and he says that Martin is as much to blame for letting it happen.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000277233/article/ricky-williams-maybe-martin-doesnt-belong-in-nfl
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2013, 06:31:17 pm »

I'm waiting to hear what Jake Long has to say about playing with Incognito, it's only a matter of time before they ask him.

If the Rams have a PR director worth his salt they don't let him answer that question....lol
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 05:59:53 am »

And outside the locker room too. Former player Ricky Williams who suffered from his own demons weighs in on the topic. While he doesn't support what Incognito did, he understands it happens and he says that Martin is as much to blame for letting it happen.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000277233/article/ricky-williams-maybe-martin-doesnt-belong-in-nfl

I saw that last night. I think that's a very realistic look.

Asked about the racist language allegedly used by Incognito in text and voice messages, Williams took exception to the notion that societal standards apply to a locker room setting.
"It's not inflammatory if it's your family," Williams said. "When you look at a team, especially two guys that play the same position, and you really understand how much time they spend together, you can't put it in the context that you would put it outside of a family setting. ... If you had a tape recorder in the locker room, you would hear a lot of stuff that wouldn't fly in the media. A football team, the NFL, it's a fraternity. ... It's not fair and it's not right for people on the outside to judge and try to figure out what's going on on the inside, because most of the people on the outside wouldn't last a week on an NFL team."
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 06:52:15 am »

Yea Ricky, no one outside of an NFL locker room is tough or can handle pressure...please.
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