Coaches told Incognito to toughen Martin up

[Landshark]

http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/1204/article/p2p-78065907/

If the latest rumors are true, Philbin better pack his bags.  I don't see him surviving this.

[el diablo]

OK. Who's going to scream out, "YOU WANT ME ON THAT WALL! YOU NEED ME ON THAT WALL!"? Ireland, Philbin, Sherman, or Incognito? Because if this story is true, somebody ordered the Code Aqua.

[EDGECRUSHER]

They were right in that Martin is incredibly soft and needed toughening up. They were wrong in sending a psychopath to do the job.

[MikeO]

Philbin will get fired based on his wins and losses this season.....not because of this!

[Spider-Dan]

Then Philbin better be prepared to get a lot of effing wins.  Right now, I'd say he's around one playoff win or GTFO.

Additionally, the article says that Incognito was asked by coaches to "toughen up" Martin after he missed a voluntary workout "last spring."  If that voluntary workout was after Martin had went to Philbin with his Incognito problems (reportedly in April), Philbin is done in this league, and any coach whose name is on it is also done.

What we are talking about is management-ordered retaliation against a player who brought a legitimate concern to his superiors because that player elected not to attend a voluntary workout.  This is NFLPA, NLRB, enormous lawsuit and federal investigation territory.  No joke.

[MikeO]

Then Philbin better be prepared to get a lot of effing wins.  Right now, I'd say he's around one playoff win or GTFO.

Additionally, the article says that Incognito was asked by coaches to "toughen up" Martin after he missed a voluntary workout "last spring."  If that voluntary workout was after Martin had went to Philbin with his Incognito problems (reportedly in April), Philbin is done in this league, and any coach whose name is on it is also done.

What we are talking about is management-ordered retaliation against a player who brought a legitimate concern to his superiors because that player elected not to attend a voluntary workout.  This is NFLPA, NLRB, enormous lawsuit and federal investigation territory.  No joke.

I don't think its as bad as you are making it out to be

[CF DolFan]

You guys are sad. If "toughen someone up" is retaliating or bullying now we've got to blow up football all the way down to Pop Warner.

[el diablo]

Spider has a point. The fact that Martin is using representation outside of the NFLPA speaks of a potential lawsuit. The NFL doesn't like lawsuits. At the same time, the Dolphins didn't outright cut Incognito. They merely suspended him. Which says they're trying to weigh their options. If it comes out that Philbin ordered a Code Aqua, he's through. Remember the Saints.

[Landshark]

Spider has a point. The fact that Martin is using representation outside of the NFLPA speaks of a potential lawsuit. The NFL doesn't like lawsuits. At the same time, the Dolphins didn't outright cut Incognito. They merely suspended him. Which says they're trying to weigh their options. If it comes out that Philbin ordered a Code Aqua, he's through. Remember the Saints.

YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!

[MikeO]

If it comes out that Philbin ordered a Code Aqua, he's through. Remember the Saints.

yeah Sean Payton is still coaching there!

[hordman]

OK. Who's going to scream out, "YOU WANT ME ON THAT WALL! YOU NEED ME ON THAT WALL!"? Ireland, Philbin, Sherman, or Incognito? Because if this story is true, somebody ordered the Code Aqua.

+1 for movie reference and classic movie scene

[hordman]

http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/1204/article/p2p-78065907/

If the latest rumors are true, Philbin better pack his bags.  I don't see him surviving this.

Adios Muchacho!

This is gonna burn Philbin in the end and cost him his job, which I'm not too disappointed in. He seems very aloof and his pressers are just a robotic exchanges between him and the media.

His whole "my kinda of people" and "character guys" spiel is just bullshit. This is a continuation of the Parcells system that was in place. Say one thing, do another. Tuna's fins are still all over this team, from VP Aponte down to Jeff Fireland.

[EKnight]

Payton is a Superbowl winning head coach. Philbin is a second year coach with a losing record during those two years. You can't equate one with the other. -EK

[Landshark]

yeah Sean Payton is still coaching there!

Payton has a Super Bowl ring.  Philbin doesn't have shit

[CF DolFan]

Omar just said something to Joe Rose that was pretty relevant in this whole situation. The NFL & Dolphins have to be very careful in handling this. For instance ... if you use Richie as the scapegoat to cover it up "he knows where the bodies are buried" and can blow this league out of the water. This goes for the coaching staff as well but I think Richie is the guy everyone would be afraid of the most.