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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2013, 11:12:13 am »

Adam Schefter is reporting on ESPN that Fins o-line coach Jim Turner is one of the key people of interest in the Wells investigation
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2013, 12:20:06 pm »

Why wouldn't he be?  Supposedly it's an so-line issue and he's the closest coach.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2013, 01:29:33 pm »

Adam Schefter is reporting on ESPN that Fins o-line coach Jim Turner is one of the key people of interest in the Wells investigation

Not surprised. Set up a positIon coach to take the fall
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2013, 01:48:49 pm »

Not surprised. Set up a positIon coach to take the fall

not a set up if its the truth  Roll Eyes

He became the person of interest after Wells met with Martin
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2013, 10:34:57 pm »

Wait, I thought the challenging of their locker room fired them up?

I guess the first half of the TB game quickly dispelled that myth...
I think it woke TB up. They have been playing great ever since hearing they were gonna killed by Miami by the media.
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2013, 11:04:43 pm »

I think it woke TB up. They have been playing great ever since hearing they were gonna killed by Miami by the media.

TB was playing great before that. They had Seattle beat at Seattle the week before and blew a 21-0 lead.
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2013, 08:38:56 am »

From the Miami Herald.

Jonathan Martin’s attorney has alleged Martin endured a “malicious physical attack on him by a teammate." And in recent days, Wells has asked some Dolphins players whether they attended a party at the home of Mike Pouncey, where the alleged attack occurred, according to a friend of Martin.

That friend tells us Richie Incognito was the ring-leader that night, in 2012, and the “level of punching” of Martin “became more than playful.” Wells has been trying to get to the bottom of that physical attack allegation, among many others.

The friend said in general, Martin was harassed by more players than just Incognito and Pouncey and that “so much” hasn’t been reported regarding what Martin endured.


Pouncey is having a hell of a month.  Wouldn't be shocked if Ross shows him the door after the year with all of his "issues" rapidly growing off the field
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2013, 09:26:42 am »

What issues are growing? One whining player says the team bullied him? Mass police want to talk to him about another case?

Look at Tony Siragusas Facebook page. There's a video of him on top of a guy and punching him, forcing him to say sorry in a hotel room. That's how alpha men play. If you don't like it then don't hang out with them.
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2013, 09:44:59 am »

What issues are growing? One whining player says the team bullied him? Mass police want to talk to him about another case?



those would be the issues.

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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2013, 10:59:33 am »

those would be the issues.


Just because you call them "issues" doesn't mean they are. Same as Martin and all his crying. Just because his lawyer said it happened that way doesn't mean it did.

I'm not sure why but you seem to jump everytime something new is written about the case. That doesn't seem typical of your previous behavior to me.
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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2013, 11:10:06 am »

Just because you call them "issues" doesn't mean they are. Same as Martin and all his crying. Just because his lawyer said it happened that way doesn't mean it did.

I'm not sure why but you seem to jump everytime something new is written about the case. That doesn't seem typical of your previous behavior to me.

He has the Feds wanting to question him about a double murder and did he sell guns to the criminal illegally or have any role in gun trafficking  ....that's an issue. And in the 2nd biggest NFL story this year his house might have been the place where a player was beaten up by his teammates, including him putting a beating on Martin. These aren't little traffic violations or silly matters. 

I don't think Pouncey is in the running for the Walter Payton NFL Man of The Year award!!  And if Ross does end up cleaning house top to bottom, it ain't stopping with GM and coaches and just 1 player (Richie). He might let everyone involved in this go including Pouncey if his role in this included beating up Martin at his house!!! It just looks bad for the organization overall. Bad image. Bad guy. Remove it all together.  Not saying it will happen, but its possible! And the more and more that comes out on Pouncey he seems like a bad person in general!
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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2013, 12:19:34 pm »

I think Incognito and Pouncey will get off the martin thing pretty easily. Seems like some of the public get excited when they read about "a source" or whatever and jumps to conclusions.

I also think Ross panicked and let Richie walk. He's a bad owner. Has been since he got here. He means well but has no idea when to get involved and when no to  or even who is doing a good job or what is good publicity versus what is bad. Basically he is clueless.  If this had been New England then we wouldn't be hearing most of the crap that the Dolphins either leak or try to explain away. What comes out of the top is a really bad joke.

I have to laugh because I read this earlier. "As Wells tries to get to the truth, some Dolphins players may be circling the wagons.  One player who was the subject of frequent teasing from Incognito entered his meeting with Wells reluctant to implicate Incognito.

First off now frequent teasing has become bullying and secondly how do we know if no one admits it? Guilty your honor because we just know it!!!

I hate to say it but if Ross does "clean house" after nothing is found I will walk on this team until a new owner comes in.  That would be the equivalent to making Wanny the head coach again ... assuming that isn't what would happen under this guy.
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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2013, 06:04:02 pm »

^^^ Actually Ross gets a raw deal. He doesn't do the "sexy" thing like sign Tebow to sell tickets and force a player like that onto his coaches. He lets his football people make football decisions. And he is hands off when it comes to picking/signing players. He could have broken the bank any number of times and done something silly to sign Fisher or Harbaugh or lure Cowher or Gruden with some insane deal giving one person way too much power,  he has never done anything crazy in that regards. Flirted with it yes but was smart enough to back away. He isn't walking the sidelines hoovering over his coach like Arthur Blank, Jerry Jones, or Dan Snyder. Or putting unqualified family members in position of power like Jones does. He offered the  state of Florida a great deal for revamping the stadium, paying for damn near most of it himself...more than any owner would have.  Stephen Ross ain't the problem. Far from it.
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« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2013, 09:32:44 am »

I think it woke TB up. They have been playing great ever since hearing they were gonna killed by Miami by the media.
TB has won 3 in a row since the Miami Media made them sound like a punching bag.
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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2013, 11:12:36 am »

paying for damn near most of it himself...more than any owner would have. 

He has offered to pay very very little of it.  The only thing he is willing to spend money on regarding is it is lobbying and political donations to defeat politicians who oppose the public funding. 

As for more than any other owner....see Bob Kraft. 
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