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« on: November 17, 2013, 07:16:55 am »

From the Miami Herald

Incredibly, Dolphins backs were hit behind the line on 12 of 14 carries Monday, and Gannon said Lamar Miller and Daniel Thomas cannot be fairly judged until “you put them behind a good offensive line that can get movement at the point of attack. John Jerry was beaten off the ball most every play. Go look at how Adrian Peterson did against the Giants, when he was being hit in the backfield [13 yards, 28 carries].

As I have been saying all year, I don't care who is your RB....they wouldn't do much with this o-line. So this notion that we should have kept Bush and paid him big bucks is laughable if you think Bush would have had success this year in Miami. Bush is having success in Detroit because Detroit has a better overall offense and more importantly a better offensive line.  And even with Miami's piss poor o-line Bush and Miller have almost equal YPC (4.7 and 4.5). When  a teams RB's are getting hit behind the line of scrimmage on almost every play, you have no shot to run the ball.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2013, 07:29:24 am »

It's difficult to judge any offensive weapon behind this line. Everything is disrupted because of it. QB has to throw at first option and RBs hit in backfield are extreme handicaps to overcome.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2013, 09:46:04 am »

From the Miami Herald

Incredibly, Dolphins backs were hit behind the line on 12 of 14 carries Monday, and Gannon said Lamar Miller and Daniel Thomas cannot be fairly judged until “you put them behind a good offensive line that can get movement at the point of attack. John Jerry was beaten off the ball most every play. Go look at how Adrian Peterson did against the Giants, when he was being hit in the backfield [13 yards, 28 carries].

As I have been saying all year, I don't care who is your RB....they wouldn't do much with this o-line. So this notion that we should have kept Bush and paid him big bucks is laughable if you think Bush would have had success this year in Miami. Bush is having success in Detroit because Detroit has a better overall offense and more importantly a better offensive line.  And even with Miami's piss poor o-line Bush and Miller have almost equal YPC (4.7 and 4.5). When  a teams RB's are getting hit behind the line of scrimmage on almost every play, you have no shot to run the ball.

Bush would have better numbers because he's more of a threat out the back field than Thomas or Miller on screens.  The screen game is there.... When your line is this bad it only make sense to run more screens... everyone but Miami seems to know that.  If we mixed in more screens like the one to Wallace and a few bubble and HB screens more... it would slow down the pass rush!  The Saints kill you with screens to Sproles it opens up their offense.  You hit a couple jail break and tunnel screens and the defense is back on their heels.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2013, 10:01:03 am »

Bush would have better numbers because he's more of a threat out the back field than Thomas or Miller on screens.  The screen game is there.... When your line is this bad it only make sense to run more screens... everyone but Miami seems to know that.  If we mixed in more screens like the one to Wallace and a few bubble and HB screens more... it would slow down the pass rush!  The Saints kill you with screens to Sproles it opens up their offense.  You hit a couple jail break and tunnel screens and the defense is back on their heels.

The screen game is only there if you call plays for it. We didn't call it last year when Bush was here what makes you think it would have been called this year?
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2013, 10:09:32 am »

The screen game is only there if you call plays for it. We didn't call it last year when Bush was here what makes you think it would have been called this year?

Just wishful thinking... I've said since last yr they didn't use Bush correctly!   It's funny... they call this a WCO type scheme, yet they don't throw screens? 

I'm lost..smh!

Think of the great 49er's teams and how many screens Roger Craig and Tom Rathman caught.   
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 10:37:32 am »

Just wishful thinking... I've said since last yr they didn't use Bush correctly!   It's funny... they call this a WCO type scheme, yet they don't throw screens? 

I'm lost..smh!

Think of the great 49er's teams and how many screens Roger Craig and Tom Rathman caught.   

Because the Fins don't have the guards who can pull and get out in front. Incognito is slow and Jon Jerry sucks. They don't have the players do run screens. Didn't last year....didn't this year
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2013, 11:00:47 am »

John Clayton mentioned RB as an area of need we didn't address in the offseason.

I can't believe he gets paid to write about football, because he obviously just looked at their YPC and wrote an article as opposed to actually doing research.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2013, 02:30:56 pm »

John Clayton mentioned RB as an area of need we didn't address in the offseason.

I can't believe he gets paid to write about football, because he obviously just looked at their YPC and wrote an article as opposed to actually doing research.

He's actually right. O-line and DT are the 2 areas Miami needs to address. The o-line sucks and Soliai and Starks have been awful this year.

Miami just signed WR's and LB's last year to big money, they aren't going to address those areas. The Secondary is pretty much set aside from re-signing Grimes. They used 2 early picks on CB's they expect to contribute. It's o-line and DT as the main needs for the Fins.  If you think Miami is going to look to add RB's before o-line and DT gets addressed it just isn't going to happen. Especially when they drafted Gillslee last year as well.

And P.S....the YPC matters! Having that kind of YPC behind this o-line says something
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