Tannehill

[dolphins4life]

I think you gotta give the guy at least one more year

He just broke the franchise record for most times being sacked in the season.

[MikeO]

QB is the least of Miami's issues these days. Get an o-line (4 to 5 new guys there) and fix the Defensive Tackle spots first. If you can't run or stop the run you can't win.

[Landshark]

I think you gotta give the guy at least one more year

He just broke the franchise record for most times being sacked in the season.

I agree that you have to.  If he doesn't show improvement in year three behind a revamped line, cut him loose

[Spider-Dan]

He just broke the franchise record for most times being sacked in the season.

IN WEEK 12

[Diehard_Dolfan]

Tanny Is a  product of his OC Mike Sherman!    Sherman is the issue more than Tanny... We're running a West Coast Offense without running many of the WCO staple plays or concepts.  Then when we do actually run some of the concepts... it's run with the wrong players.  We should see slants and more screens run by Wallace... instead he runs them with Matthews and Hartline.   More wheel routes to Miller and Clay will soften the pass rush.. but Sherman runs these concepts once a game... if at all!

[MikeO]

Tanny Is a  product of his OC Mike Sherman!    Sherman is the issue more than Tanny... We're running a West Coast Offense without running many of the WCO staple plays or concepts.  Then when we do actually run some of the concepts... it's run with the wrong players.  We should see slants and more screens run by Wallace... instead he runs them with Matthews and Hartline.   More wheel routes to Miller and Clay will soften the pass rush.. but Sherman runs these concepts once a game... if at all!

The piss poor o-line has limited what we can do on offense. Not defending Sherman but when you have o-linemen who are slow, and can't get out in space fast enough there are certain plays we just can't run.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

True!

But bubble screens don't require the offensive linemen at all!  Neither do the wheel routes or slants... Slants are a WCO staple!  I've never seen a team that ran a WCO scheme where slants and screens weren't a big part of their scheme.   That's all Sherman there... can't defend running a WCO scheme without any of the staple plays!  There is nothing to make the defense pay for being aggressive!

[Phishfan]

The success of a bubble screen relies on the offensive line releasing to block for the receiver. I don't see how it does not require them.

[Sunstroke]

The fact that he's doing anything behind arguably the worst O-line in the league, with a weak WR corps and arguably the worst running back support in the league, tells me that Tannehill is not the problem with this team. Put him behind a better line, with a little more RB/WR talent around him, and I think he could even be a "great" QB, not just a good one.

[Dave Gray]

Mod note: Try to think up a better title to your threads. 

In this case: "How much time should we give Tannehill?"

[MikeO]

The fact that he's doing anything behind arguably the worst O-line in the league, with a weak WR corps and arguably the worst running back support in the league, tells me that Tannehill is not the problem with this team. Put him behind a better line, with a little more RB/WR talent around him, and I think he could even be a "great" QB, not just a good one.

Totally agree.  And the fact he has equal to better stats than RGIII and Luck with this mess blocking for him and no running game says a lot about Tannehill. Just give him a decent o-line with a healthy Gibson and Keller. I think the o-line has killed this season. Can't protect the QB and won't allow the RB's to do anything. When you play a game (like we did vs TB) and every run play except 2 the RB's were hit behind the line of scrimmage...I dont' care if you have Jim Brown in his prime...you can't the ball. No RB will have success. It's a one-dimensional offense with no blocking. The fact we have won 5 games and almost won vs Buffalo, NE, Balt, and Carolina is a minor miracle!

[EKnight]

Mod note: Try to think up a better title to your threads. 

In this case: "How much time should we give Tannehill?"

Then this is easier- one more year to turn the corner. As bad as the OLine is, RT has had chances and doesn't make the throws he needs to. Look at the game vs. Carolina- Wallace had to adjust to make the TD catch because he was badly under thrown. Same thing on the 57 yarder- if he would have hit Wallace in stride or led him, that's a TD. Happened again in the second half for an incompletion. A "franchise" QB can't consistently underthrow his receivers when he's given time to pass- that's on him, not the line. -EK

[Spider-Dan]

So Mark Sanchez gets 4 years to prove his worth (starting out with a top defense, OL, and running game), while the cord is cut on Tannehill after 3 years?

BTW, I thought you already declared Tannehill a bust at halftime of his first game of his first season?  Why are you now saying he gets one more year (3 total)?

Why are you putting on the extremely reasonable and objective act right now when you had already decided Tannehill was a waste of a pick before he had completed a single game?

[Diehard_Dolfan]

The success of a bubble screen relies on the offensive line releasing to block for the receiver. I don't see how it does not require them.

WRONG!

The receivers block for bubble screens!  The slot receiver runs the bubble and the outside receiver blocks the DB covering the slot guy. You can even have a TE release and block or trips to that side where they both block for the slot guy. 

http://youtu.be/jhqtcazEL4E

http://youtu.be/kER5Ds_fqnE

The idea is to get the ball to the receiver out in space... he need make one guy miss or break a tackle!

[EDGECRUSHER]

Guys, he set the franchise sack record with 5 games to go. Why is this even a conversation? He has been solid to good behind the worst O-Line in the league, which has led us to have ZERO running game. It's a one dimensional offense with a terrible OC and somehow we are still 5-6 and could arguably be 8-3 if we just closed out games and didn't choke. Give the kid a break, there are plenty of other areas of need. For now, QB is not one of them.