Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
February 24, 2025, 10:49:29 pm
Home Help Search Calendar Login Register
News: Brian Fein is now blogging weekly!  Make sure to check the homepage for his latest editorial.
+  The Dolphins Make Me Cry.com - Forums
|-+  TDMMC Forums
| |-+  Dolphins Discussion (Moderators: CF DolFan, MaineDolFan)
| | |-+  Ireland told by Ross his job is safe
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 Print
Author Topic: Ireland told by Ross his job is safe  (Read 8702 times)
MikeO
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 13582


« on: December 09, 2013, 12:11:51 pm »

Armando of the Miami Herald reporting that Ross has told Ireland his job is safe and he will be back next year

The man Dolphins fans see as the most likely casualty from the NFL scandal and poor performances earlier this season, Ireland, also is getting a new life.

According to an NFL source, he has received assurances from Ross that his job is safe.


Logged
Jim Gray
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 2654


'72 - The Perfect Season

texasjimgray
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 12:26:23 pm »

I may be in the minority, but I'm okay with this.  I think the average fan underestimates the upheaval associated with front office and coaching changes.  These guys (Ireland and Philbin) are first timers in their respective jobs.  They are learning and I believe, getting better. 
Logged
MikeO
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 13582


« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 12:27:42 pm »

If they fired him and just replaced him from within (Aponte or Gaine) with someone with no GM experience, I would rather have Ireland honestly. And if they fired him that's probably what would have happened.
Logged
Fau Teixeira
Administrator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 6347



« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 12:39:30 pm »

This is the best news we've had so far after whinegate started.

Yaaaaay ! .. give Ireland a 10 year fully guaranteed contract with an ownership stake in the team if he's fired before then ! .. lets get this team on the right track .. quit this front office and coaching carousel .. build from the draft .. get our coaches back on the competition committee.

stability = winning  in the nfl .. period
Logged
Brian Fein
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 28297

WHAAAAA???

chunkyb
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 12:43:51 pm »

Just because fans want him fired doesn't make it the right thing to do.  He has done a good job, IMO.  Yay, stability!
Logged
MyGodWearsAHoodie
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 14607



« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 02:15:53 pm »

Pretty meaningless.

Reports come out all the time that so-and-so job is safe and a few weeks later they are fired.  You really think Ross is going to tell Ireland, "Look you are going to be fired at the end of the season but I want you to work hard up until then."  Get real.

I am not saying Ireland is definitely getting fired, but this report doesn't mean anything. 
Logged

There are two rules for success:
 1. Never tell everything you know.
Thundergod
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 3142


« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 03:13:39 pm »

Awesome   Roll Eyes   Can't wait to see what greatness this guy can put together. His resume is chock full of sweet pickups during his tenure in Miami. Hell, let him retire here! Stability galore. Yay, more mediocre seasons!

Logged
Sunstroke
YJFF Member
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 22874

Stop your bloodclot cryin'!


Email
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 03:53:57 pm »


I think stability is much more important for the coaching staff and players than it is for the GM. If a GM shows that he can't spot talent, then you don't hurt your team at all by trying to get a better one.

Logged

"There's no such thing as objectivity. We're all just interpreting signals from the universe and trying to make sense of them. Dim, shaky, weak, staticky little signals that only hint at the complexity of a universe that we cannot begin to comprehend."
~ Micah Leggat
Phishfan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 15730



« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2013, 04:47:14 pm »

^^^ Unless new GMs also mean coaching unstability because they brought in "their guy" who did not work out and then another new replacement in a last ditch effort to keep a job (which then likely leads to a third coaching change if the GM does get fired and the process starts again).

This scenario is not a given, just a Devil's Advocate position of how it could affect things.
Logged
Spider-Dan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 16014


Bay Area Niner-Hater


« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2013, 04:57:49 pm »

Miami is in this predicament in the first place because they got rid of the coach (Sparano) but kept the GM.  Generally speaking, if you're going to fire one, you fire them both.
Logged

Tenshot13
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 8078


Email
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2013, 05:46:42 pm »

Count my vote for Ireland.
Logged
Dave Gray
Administrator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 30905

It's doo-doo, baby!

26384964 davebgray@comcast.net davebgray floridadavegray
WWW Email
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2013, 10:46:27 pm »

I do kinda feel that this group is a pair.  It seems that if you ditch Ireland, but keep Philbin, you're kinda half-assed cleaning house.  And it's pretty clear at this point that you're not going to fire Philbin.

Logged

I drink your milkshake!
MikeO
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 13582


« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2013, 11:01:47 pm »

I do kinda feel that this group is a pair.  It seems that if you ditch Ireland, but keep Philbin, you're kinda half-assed cleaning house.  And it's pretty clear at this point that you're not going to fire Philbin.



No need to fire any of them, makes no sense. They have matched last years win total already with 3 left to play. They are playing meaningful games in December and have a shot at the playoffs. Even if the Fins come up short of the playoffs, you don't fire people off a season like this.  You wonder why the "top coaches" (ie Fisher, Cowher...etc) don't want to come to Miami and in some cases refuse to take the interview? They don't see stability in the franchise.  Ross has to build up his reputation in league circles. This is how ya do it. Don't be a hands on owner and give the people you hired time. Don't go knee-jerk every offseason with wholesale changes if ya hit a bump in the road
Logged
Dave Gray
Administrator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 30905

It's doo-doo, baby!

26384964 davebgray@comcast.net davebgray floridadavegray
WWW Email
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2013, 12:08:45 am »

Yeah, I don't disagree.
Logged

I drink your milkshake!
EDGECRUSHER
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 10137



« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2013, 06:47:15 pm »

Well, we spent a ton in the offseason and had a lot of draft picks? Let's just say we finish 8-8 and miss the playoffs. You can even make that 9-7. Would that be considered a success just because it's not a losing record? Success is the last word I would use to describe a season in which we came from behind to lose about 5 games.

As far as Ireland goes, fire him because he hasn't done anything. I don't have many complaints about his offseason moves this time, but he does not have a successful track record, so why the loyalty?

Philbin, I would toss just for the 2nd half meltdowns which are 100% on the coaching staff. I don't care about the Incognito nonsense, so he shouldn't take the fall for that.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

The Dolphins Make Me Cry - Copyright© 2008 - Designed and Marketed by Dave Gray


Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines