Prospect Michael Sam Says He's Gay

[Sunstroke]

He's an undersized DE who looks like he'll have a hard time transitioning to an OLB...I'd really prefer that some other team drafts him.

Bullshit.  As a purported professor...

Purported means the same as fictitious?

[masterfins]

A DE scoring a TD is worthy of a coach's comment.

If he falls to the 7th round I would not be surprised if the Pats draft him. And no, BB would never bring up MS's sexuality.  I am sure the press would ask about it, and BB would respond with a non-answer.  For two reasons:  1) the only smart response to a question about a players sexuality is a non-answer and 2) BB is a master a the non-answer. 

Thanks for dumbing down my post so others could understand it.   

[Dave Gray]

I think this is not going to be a big deal at all.

There will be a vocal minority of idiots, but that will be squashed by the players' agents, their prospective teams, and the league relatively quickly.  Any national media commentators who speak ill on the issue will likely get public push-back and have to issue apologies or be canned.

There will be 3 camps of players: Those that are immediately supportive, those that are weirded out at first until they see it's no big deal, and those that speak out and face social backlash.

Also, give some credit to football players.  They are meat-heads, sure -- but they are meatheads that went to 3-5 years of college, where this kind of stuff is very accepted and visible.

[Phishfan]

Here is the thing though. I don't think his own locker room is where he is going to have the most troubles. We all know the things that get said across the line of scrimmage. That is where the real test will be.

[Dave Gray]

Here is the thing though. I don't think his own locker room is where he is going to have the most troubles. We all know the things that get said across the line of scrimmage. That is where the real test will be.

So, people will call him a faggot. ...so what?  He can take it.  I'm sure that the N word gets dropped and a bunch of other terrible, personal things.

[SCFinfan]

In the context of his employment, he should be treated just like everyone else.

[Brian Fein]

I think this is not going to be a big deal at all.

Its already a big deal, just because people are talking about it. ESPN has been non-stop for 2+ days already.

I just wonder that, if the goal is really equality, then why bring this up at all?  No one is shocked when a "black" or "white" player gets drafted.  Maybe they did in the 40's but not today.  But today's issue in the NFL isn't necessarily race, but sexuality.  Someone had to "break the ice," so to speak, and be the first.  Now that its out there, the media circus that ensues will be Tebow-esque, with endless stories about how courageous he is and what a brave person.  I bet he doesn't think so, he's just living his life.

So, nice, its a novelty, but he's still a person, and a football player, and let's stop focusing on how different people are, if all people really want is equality for all.

[pondwater]

Attention seeking whore if you ask me. I mean really who cares? You don't have to sit in the closet, but then again you don't have to spout off to the whole world,"I'm gay and fabulous, look at me". Most homosexuals that I have known are like that these days. They just have to throw their gayness in your face. It seems to me that these type of gays and the stunts they pull are just for attention, to seek approval, or to just try and bother people. Just keep it to yourself, no one gives a fuck except others like you, a very small minority.

[Fau Teixeira]

I'm not sure if you're trolling on purpose or you actually think the way you do. And i'm not sure which is worse.  Your entire paragraph is just wrong. It has no redeeming value. Doesn't contribute to the discussion and only serves the purpose to incite arguments.

I won't address all your points, because your premise is fundamentally wrong.
The flaw in your premise is that you don't believe in individual freedom. You are no friend to liberty. You are a pawn of a  totalitarian ideology. Good day to you.

[pondwater]

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Cease and desist.   

I will not allow you to derail this thread, nor am I locking it.  Cease posting in this thread. 

-- The management.

[Sunstroke]

Article on ESPN today about Michael Sam's father having a hard time with the news that his son is gay. Apparently he didn't know until Michael let him know about a week ago in a text message.

Now, I am all for tolerance and all that, but what kind of person drops that kind of bomb on his dad with a text message? That's a face-to-face kind of topic, or at least a phone call.

[fyo]

What are the odds the coverage will burn itself out by the combine? draft? start of training camp? preseason games? week 1?

Sam absolutely had to get out in front of this and just tell his story. No way was it going to stay a secret and it would have come out before the draft and been a HUGE distraction. By telling it now, there's a good chance the distraction will at least be reduced by the time the draft rolls around. Sure, it'll get coverage every time something new happens (like "first openly gay player to be drafted" and a bunch of half-assed speculation about where he got drafted and what, if any, influence his sexual orientation had), but once the "new" bit is reported, it just doesn't seem like there's going to be much more meat on the bone.

[CF DolFan]

Article on ESPN today about Michael Sam's father having a hard time with the news that his son is gay. Apparently he didn't know until Michael let him know about a week ago in a text message.

Now, I am all for tolerance and all that, but what kind of person drops that kind of bomb on his dad with a text message? That's a face-to-face kind of topic, or at least a phone call.

That was messed up. He texted his dad and said "Dad ... I'm gay" and left it at that.  Hopefully if the day ever comes and my kids have to tell me something I will not like they will respect me enough to tell me face to face.

[Tenshot13]

That was messed up. He texted his dad and said "Dad ... I'm gay" and left it at that.  Hopefully if the day ever comes and my kids have to tell me something I will not like they will respect me enough to tell me face to face.

I agree to an extent.  The way his father responded, I can see why he chose to do it in a text.  Having said that, it should have been done face to face IMO.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I agree to an extent.  The way his father responded, I can see why he chose to do it in a text.  Having said that, it should have been done face to face IMO.

Agreed.  And several years ago.  I can understand the parents not being the first to know, but before he told the entire football team he should have told his parents, he really was running the risk dad would have find out in an even worse way (such as reading about it the newspaper or a reporter asking his parents for a comment)