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MikeO
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« Reply #90 on: March 21, 2014, 07:39:25 pm »

Sanchez cut.....Vick signed by the Jets.
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« Reply #91 on: March 21, 2014, 07:59:45 pm »

^^^^^^^

He could teach Geno Smith a thing or two about being a mobile quarterback
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« Reply #92 on: March 21, 2014, 08:27:27 pm »

^^^^^^^

He could teach Geno Smith a thing or two about being a mobile quarterback
He wants to play, not sure there will be a lot of teaching going on.  Vick wants his job.
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« Reply #93 on: March 21, 2014, 08:31:08 pm »

He wants to play, not sure there will be a lot of teaching going on.  Vick wants his job.

Which is exactly what Smith needs. Sit for a year and learn, then come back and see how much you've improved. Although it's weird to play your rookie year then sit for your second year
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« Reply #94 on: March 21, 2014, 08:38:07 pm »

Which is exactly what Smith needs. Sit for a year and learn, then come back and see how much you've improved. Although it's weird to play your rookie year then sit for your second year

If Smith sits for a year then Idzik and Rex are done in NY and Geno's NFL career is all but shot (at least from being a starter in this league perspective). Idzik and Rex hitched their wagon to Geno....they stay employed as long as Geno is the starting QB.

Plus NOBODY in this league "learns" from sitting anymore. That is some 1980's thinking there....you play. You take your lumps. You get thrown in the fire and learn that way.
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« Reply #95 on: March 21, 2014, 08:56:55 pm »

If Smith sits for a year then Idzik and Rex are done in NY and Geno's NFL career is all but shot (at least from being a starter in this league perspective). Idzik and Rex hitched their wagon to Geno....they stay employed as long as Geno is the starting QB.

Plus NOBODY in this league "learns" from sitting anymore. That is some 1980's thinking there....you play. You take your lumps. You get thrown in the fire and learn that way.

Sitting quarterbacks is 80s thinking??  Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Phillip Rivers, and Colin Kaepernick disagree to name a few
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« Reply #96 on: March 21, 2014, 09:30:35 pm »

Sitting quarterbacks is 80s thinking??  Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Phillip Rivers, and Colin Kaepernick disagree to name a few

Horrible analogy by your part. Tom Brady was a 6th round after thought. He ONLY played because of injury. Kaapernick was playing behind the #1 overall pick in the NFL draft a few years prior, he wasn't drafted to start from day 1. Rodgers wasn't drafted to start he was drafted to play behind Favre...same with Rivers behind Brees. Geno was drafted in Rd 2 to become the starter from day 1 because Mark Sanchez SUCKS! That's why Mark Sanchez was playing in the 4th quarter of a PRESEASON GAME, he never had the job! To draft Geno start him year one then bench him ...to expect him to start again in year 3 or 4 is beyond foolish and idiotic.
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« Reply #97 on: March 22, 2014, 03:43:12 am »

Having a quarterback sit on the bench and learn before you hand him the starting job is not a crazy idea.

Giving a quarterback the starting job and THEN sitting him for a year is a death sentence.  I await a counterexample of a successful QB that has done so.
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« Reply #98 on: March 22, 2014, 01:36:22 pm »

Sanchez and Tebow picture...lol
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31.0-8/1781768_693611777352180_1279646064_o.jpg
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« Reply #99 on: March 22, 2014, 05:44:22 pm »

Having a quarterback sit on the bench and learn before you hand him the starting job is not a crazy idea.

Giving a quarterback the starting job and THEN sitting him for a year is a death sentence.  I await a counterexample of a successful QB that has done so.

The closest I can come to that is Drew Bledsoe. Keep in mind Sanchez wasn't benched, he went on IR.  And while Drew didn't have great success post-NE he did start in both Buffalo and Dallas.

Sanchez should get a chance to compete for the #2 spot somewhere, what he makes of that opportunity I can't say.
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« Reply #100 on: March 22, 2014, 10:54:54 pm »

We're talking about Geno Smith, not Sanchez.  Sanchez was released outright, so this doesn't really apply to him.

And Bledsoe wasn't a young player that needed more time to grow, which is the ostensible reason for benching Smith.
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« Reply #101 on: March 23, 2014, 02:27:52 pm »

We're talking about Geno Smith, not Sanchez.  Sanchez was released outright, so this doesn't really apply to him.

And Bledsoe wasn't a young player that needed more time to grow, which is the ostensible reason for benching Smith.

Oh, I thought you were talking about Sanchez's prospects.  I would say it is still an open question who will be starting for the Jets this year, not a forgone conclusion that it is Vick.
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« Reply #102 on: March 23, 2014, 05:03:27 pm »

Oh, I thought you were talking about Sanchez's prospects.  I would say it is still an open question who will be starting for the Jets this year, not a forgone conclusion that it is Vick.

Nor a foregone conclusion that it's Smith either. Which is what I'm wondering what will happen to Smith if Vick ends up winning the job.  Your closest example was Bledsoe who had started for New England for eight years. I can't recall a single rookie that started right off the bat, sat the following year and succeeded after.  Matter of fact, the only rookie quarterback I recall who started in his first year then was benched was Ryan Leaf
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« Reply #103 on: March 24, 2014, 08:21:34 am »

Matter of fact, the only rookie quarterback I recall who started in his first year then was benched was Ryan Leaf
How soon we forget. How could you forget the career of Miami's own John Beck who started 4 games as a rookie and went on to have a fine career with Baltimore, Washington, Houston and the BC Lions.  Evil
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« Reply #104 on: March 24, 2014, 09:59:11 am »

How soon we forget. How could you forget the career of Miami's own John Beck who started 4 games as a rookie and went on to have a fine career with Baltimore, Washington, Houston and the BC Lions.  Evil

He wasn't a day one starter
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