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« Reply #105 on: March 24, 2014, 10:11:16 am »
... who had blue eyes and was born in the month of May to parents of mixed-race...

Come on, the more requirements you put on the ridiculous hypothetical, the more impossible it will be to find the solution.
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« Reply #106 on: March 24, 2014, 10:47:31 am »
Closest example I could come to an NFL QB that started as a rookie, was benched and then had a somewhat decent career was Doug Flutie. He started 15 games as a rookie albeit for the USFL not the NFL, but he may have started in the NFL had he not signed with the USFL first. After the USFL folded the next year he was sent to Chicago where he was a backup to Jim McMahon. He wasn't really benched since it was a different team, but he still sat the bench. Flutie ended his career with a 76.3 QB rating and started at least 52 games for several teams. (Not sure about his starts because I don't think NFL.com really kept track of starts as opposed to just games played prior to '98).

Yes, I know I'm reaching but I still don't think that it's a foregone conclusion that Gino Smith will never be anything if he gets beat out by Vick. Anytime a QB gets replaced by someone else without being hurt it typically doesn't bode well for that QB, but it's not impossible to hang around the league and get another chance with another team. I'm sure it's happened, it's just really rare.
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« Reply #107 on: March 24, 2014, 11:54:43 am »
Quote from: Pappy13 on March 24, 2014, 10:47:31 am
Closest example I could come to an NFL QB that started as a rookie, was benched and then had a somewhat decent career was Doug Flutie. He started 15 games as a rookie albeit for the USFL not the NFL...

Using this as a model, I would think that Steve Young would be the ultimate success story example. Started in the USFL and then for Tampa Bay. Tampa considered him a bust, traded him to the 49ers, where he was the back-up for four years. Then he took over for Superman (Joe Montana) and put together a hall of fame career.
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« Reply #108 on: March 24, 2014, 12:14:41 pm »
Stroke just hit the nail on the head.  Steve Young started 19 games in his first 2 season, and then sat the bench for four years behind Montana.  Now he's in the Hall of Fame.

So there!

Geno Smith could be the next Steve Young!
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« Reply #109 on: March 24, 2014, 12:17:10 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on March 24, 2014, 11:54:43 am
Using this as a model, I would think that Steve Young would be the ultimate success story example. Started in the USFL and then for Tampa Bay. Tampa considered him a bust, traded him to the 49ers, where he was the back-up for four years. Then he took over for Superman (Joe Montana) and put together a hall of fame career.

I remember a harbinger of things to come during the 87 playoffs when the Niners were getting soundly beaten by the Vikings. Bill Walsh yanked Montana in favor of Young who looked so much quicker and better. 
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« Reply #110 on: March 24, 2014, 01:19:10 pm »
I guess Steve Young is sort of an example, but not quite the same.  If Geno Smith were traded to NE or DEN, no sane person would expect him to start, so it would be understood that he's being groomed for later.

If, instead of trading Young in 1987, TB had instead signed Dan Fouts (i.e. someone with no long-term future on a team that is not one player away from contending) and sat Young, that would be a closer comparison.
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« Reply #111 on: March 24, 2014, 02:15:30 pm »
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Now he's in the Hall of Fame.

And we saw him inducted...along with Marino, of course. That trip was a blast!
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« Reply #112 on: March 24, 2014, 05:00:33 pm »
Sanchez to sign with Philadelphia once he passes his physical
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« Reply #113 on: March 24, 2014, 05:03:01 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on March 24, 2014, 02:15:30 pm
And we saw him inducted...along with Marino, of course. That trip was a blast!


Yeah that was fun.  Still one of the milestones of my life timeline.
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« Reply #114 on: March 26, 2014, 09:09:27 am »
Jared Allen signed with the Bears this morning
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« Reply #115 on: March 28, 2014, 07:52:05 am »
MJD signing with the Raiders once he passes his physical
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« Reply #116 on: March 28, 2014, 12:40:41 pm »
Came out that Desean Jackson is connected to some gangs and some crimes possibly. That is why Philly wants him gone ASAP!


UPDATE...and 10 seconds after I posted that the Eagles CUT him...lol
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« Reply #117 on: March 28, 2014, 01:03:15 pm »
Quote from: MikeO on March 28, 2014, 12:40:41 pm
Came out that Desean Jackson is connected to some gangs and some crimes possibly. That is why Philly wants him gone ASAP!


UPDATE...and 10 seconds after I posted that the Eagles CUT him...lol

So what?  A lot of players come from bad neighborhoods and some have gang affiliations. This guy is a threat to score every time he touches the ball. I'd grab him now if I were Denis Hickey, especially with Hartline and Gibson on the mend.
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« Reply #118 on: March 28, 2014, 01:11:06 pm »
Quote from: Landshark on March 28, 2014, 01:03:15 pm
So what?  A lot of players come from bad neighborhoods and some have gang affiliations. This guy is a threat to score every time he touches the ball. I'd grab him now if I were Denis Hickey, especially with Hartline and Gibson on the mend.

And yet another reason you are not employed as a GM.  Although you could probably get a job AT GM.
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« Reply #119 on: March 28, 2014, 01:19:35 pm »
Quote from: masterfins on March 28, 2014, 01:11:06 pm
And yet another reason you are not employed as a GM.  Although you could probably get a job AT GM.

Really?  You don't think Mike Wallace and DeSean Jackson is a dangerous combo?
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