Malaysian Airliner

[bsmooth]

Interesting story. How long do you think it will be before they find wreckage or signs of an impact?

[BigDaddyFin]

A long time.  I'm willing to bet money they flew into the ocean and I don't think it would more than a few minutes for an airplane to sink.

[Tenshot13]

I think they're all trapped on a strange deserted island where a large, black smoke roams...

[CF DolFan]

I think they're all trapped on a strange deserted island where a large, black smoke roams...

The odd thing is some of the families are saying their cell phones are still ringing. This means the plane is still intact and water hasn't gotten in or ....

[CF DolFan]

I just read something very interesting. Apparently the co-pilot and his pilots have a history of pulling women out of the queue and bringing them into the cock pit for the flight. This girl said they pulled her and her friend out and let them ride up front which is strictly forbidden by the airlines. 

[Dave Gray]

I am puzzled by this whole thing.  It would seem that water would be the most likely scenario, but even then, things float.  I find it hard to believe that a plane can crash in the water and stay fully intact, while simultaneously killing everyone on board.  If it breaks apart, so many things in there float and you'd have a ton of debris.

[Phishfan]

^^^That is why I think explosion is more likely. #1 it doesn't allow time for distress signals (and there were none) #2 it spreads out the debri so it is not in clumps and is harder to find

[Dave Gray]

I think that explosion would be easier to find, since the debris would be scatted over a larger area.  I imagine that crashing into the ocean is  most likely and that they never made a distress signal because they were busy trying to right the plane.

[Brian Fein]

^^ And someone would have seen an explosion...?

What if the plane didn't break up?  What if they tried to land it on water like that guy did on the Hudson a few years back, but maybe it broke into large chunks and sunk?  I can't believe that no one has sent a submarine in yet...?

Also, the story about 4 fake passports being used to get on board is intriguing.  There must be a link...

[Phishfan]

Who is seeing an explosion over the water? The plane should have been at about 30K feet when it disappeared. That type of scatter is tougher to find than a solid plane hitting the water and leaving debri in a concentrated area.

Also, where did you hear four passports? Someone else mentioned that yesterday but the stories I and a friend had heard were two. Seems there may be a lot of variations depending on the sources.

[Dave Gray]

The two passports appear to be unlinked.  They know who has them, but they think they are two guys that are trying to emigrate out of the country.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I agree with Phishfan had to be a near instantaneous event.  The first thing any pilot will do is send a distress signal, and it takes a while for a plane to fall from cruising altitude to the water. 

Either explosion or complete system failure that even wiped out all backup systems on the radio.  No way the pilots spend a minute of two trying to control the airplane without bothering to flick the distress signal button. 

[Dave Gray]

I agree with Phishfan had to be a near instantaneous event.  The first thing any pilot will do is send a distress signal, and it takes a while for a plane to fall from cruising altitude to the water. 

I was reading an article recently that said exactly the opposite of this.  It said that pilots are trained to focus solely on correcting problems with the aircraft and not to report to the ground.  It said that it is not at all uncommon in these types of accidents for 100% of the pilot's attention to be focused on getting the plane not to crash and that there is nothing odd at all about there being no distress call.

[BigDaddyFin]

They weren't even looking in the right spot.  The plane was hundreds of miles off course.

[CF DolFan]

They were not only looking in the wrong place but if reports are true it was flying the other way. It's sounding more and more like a hijacking. With the phones still operating the people could possibly still be alive. This is turning into a movie. I really feel for the family and friends dealing with this.