Redskins lose trademarks

[AZ Fins Fan 55]

So when they "win" this fight do they go after Redman chewing tobacco next?

[Dave Gray]

So when they "win" this fight do they go after Redman chewing tobacco next?

If you're being serious, the answer is "no".   I mean, maybe eventually, but no, in general.  Redman chewing tobacco isn't going after the same marketshare as the NFL and doesn't rely on public appearance and funding the same way.

Because of the nature of the NFL, their decisions have to be homogenized.

There's a reason that their halftime shows are safe and generic.  They have to appeal to a super-wide mass and it just doesn't do them any good to be anything but vanilla.

[AZ Fins Fan 55]

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Is it not still offensive? Or because it won't get the high profile publicity that going after an NFL team will it is not worth the fight. So it is only a matter of convenience on when a name that was not intended to be offensive is considered racially charged and offensive?

 

[MikeO]

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Is it not still offensive? Or because it won't get the high profile publicity that going after an NFL team will it is not worth the fight. So it is only a matter of convenience on when a name that was not intended to be offensive is considered racially charged and offensive?

 

Exactly! It's about publicity, raising money, and getting certain people faces on TV and in newspapers!

[AZ Fins Fan 55]

Looks like it won't stop with the Redskins.....now they are on to baseball!!!!!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2109290-tracking-cleveland-indians-potential-9b-lawsuit-from-native-american-group?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national

[MikeO]

Looks like it won't stop with the Redskins.....now they are on to baseball!!!!!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2109290-tracking-cleveland-indians-potential-9b-lawsuit-from-native-american-group?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national

but wait, everyone told me this wouldn't happen! That there would be no "slippery slope." That it was just the Redskins.  Who couldn't see this coming a mile away!!

[CF DolFan]

A long as there are lawyers and no consequences people will continue to push the boundaries of the absurd. Push them long enough and they become the norm.

[Brian Fein]

The Slippery Slope that everyone said wouldn't happen, has already begun.  I guess the word "Indian" is a racial slur now too, right?

"We're going to be asking for $9 billion and we're basing it on a hundred years of disparity, racism, exploitation and profiteering," Roche said.

yep - 9 BILLION...  Sure sounds like they aren't out for money at all...

AZ's example of Redman chewing tobacco is exactly the point.  If it was offensive, it would be offensive EVERYWHERE, not just on multi-million-dollar sports franchises.

[Spider-Dan]

but wait, everyone told me this wouldn't happen! That there would be no "slippery slope." That it was just the Redskins.  Who couldn't see this coming a mile away!!

That's funny, because as an Indians fan, I remember saying that Chief Wahoo would be going away in one of the other threads you created on this topic last year.

[Dave Gray]

but wait, everyone told me this wouldn't happen! That there would be no "slippery slope."

What?  No they didn't.  You said there would be a slippery slope and nobody contradicted you.

[pondwater]

What are these peoples actual damages besides hurt feeling and being offended? By the team in question using the name, have these indians actualy lost something that I'm not aware of? Bunch of money grubbing pussies if you ask me.

[Dave Gray]

Everyone just needs to calm down with the sensationalist bullshit.  Talking about suing is not suing and you can sue anyone for anything, anyway.  It doesn't mean the case has merit and will not get thrown out. 

I'm sure some lawyers are looking for a payday through extortion.  Just let it play out.

[MikeO]

The Slippery Slope that everyone said wouldn't happen, has already begun.  I guess the word "Indian" is a racial slur now too, right?

"We're going to be asking for $9 billion and we're basing it on a hundred years of disparity, racism, exploitation and profiteering," Roche said.

yep - 9 BILLION...  Sure sounds like they aren't out for money at all...

AZ's example of Redman chewing tobacco is exactly the point.  If it was offensive, it would be offensive EVERYWHERE, not just on multi-million-dollar sports franchises.

You got it Brian. You are 100% correct. And where is the $9 billion actually going? That is the question. This lawsuit actually helps the Redskins stance. Makes it look like everything that falls under this umbrella is a joke and the "plaintiffs" are just out for money. Even if it may not be the case, they will all get painted with the same brush.

[MikeO]

What?  No they didn't.  You said there would be a slippery slope and nobody contradicted you.

One person did.

You sound like the gun conspiracists, "they want regulation on something so therefore they plan to take everything away."

[CF DolFan]

Here is the thing CF and I think you can recognize this. You Sanford boys love to be considered crackers and rednecks and the like. It doesn't offend you one bit. As JJ Grey (Florida native) says in one of his songs, "Call me dirtfloorcracker but them words just fill me with pride".

It is hard to complain about your badge of honor not being considered offensive.

LOL ... Indians can't even agree whether it's offensive or not. How many schools within close range to Indian Territories use the name Redskins including some with majority of Native Americans? This sounds like one of those" they aren't smart enough to know so we'll tell' em" kind of things.