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« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2014, 12:58:39 pm »

I truly don't know anyone of any age that keeps a landline. If I need to give out a fake number or something that I don't want to answer I give out my Google number.

 
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« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2014, 05:27:05 pm »

I could be wrong, but I was under the assumption that if insurance was available to you and your dependants through your employer that you had to use it instead of the marketplace.
You always have the option to use the marketplace.

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You do realize that there are people who's policy has doubled or tripled in order for you to save that $600. Why do you feel that it's a good thing for you to benefit by penalizing others?
Do you mean people like this 56-year-old woman, who was paying $54/month for "coverage" that covered hospitalization only in the case of pregnancy and paid only $50 towards doctor's visits?

To answer your question, the reason why we think we should "penalize" others by having a certain minimum standard for health insurance is because when those people with substandard health insurance get sick and their insurance doesn't cover them, we're going to be paying for it anyway.  Unless you're proposing that we start turning people away at emergency rooms unless they pay up front?

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This is the primary reason that this whole ponzi scheme is going to crumble upon itself. My insurance went up a considerable amount. My $227 a month increase doesn't matter to you when you are saving $600.
Without getting into the specifics of your particular situation, it seems like every time some conservative complains about an increase in their health insurance plan, one or more of the following is true:

a) they had a cheap plan with coverage so minimal that it would have effectively done nothing in the case of serious illness or injury
b) they did not price compare and see if better options are available (which is puzzling for a political group who are normally in favor of market competition)
c) they deliberately ignore or refuse to accept the available tax credits that would lower the cost of their plan (even though they happily accept other tax credits like mortgage interest deduction)

I leave it to the reader to consider the possible motivation behind actions b) and c).

I truly don't know anyone of any age that keeps a landline.
I keep a landline for my fax machine, home alarm, and to give to telemarketers and people I don't want to talk to.
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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2014, 07:10:40 am »

Fax machine? How retro.
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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2014, 12:12:00 pm »

Fax machine? How retro.

I talked to someone with a fax machine the other day and was shocked. The quality is crap. Scan the document and then e-mail it. It is 2012 after all  Wink
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« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2014, 12:56:11 pm »


Yeah, I pretty much figured that the moment that we learned how to scan and send images by email was the moment that the fax machine became obsolete.

I haven't had a true landline since I ran my small internet publication business from home around 15 years ago.

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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2014, 04:36:38 pm »

I don't receive faxes, I send them.  And I do so for the same reason that I still buy stamps: I don't necessarily want to argue with someone about how they should accept something I'm trying to send them.
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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2014, 07:20:51 pm »

It is 2012 after all  Wink

Um.. time for a new calender.

Fax machines are considered more secure than email.  There are is some data that my company prohibits me to send by email that I am allowed to fax (but only if the receiver is standing by the fax machine waiting for it to be received. )
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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2014, 09:22:53 pm »

Um.. time for a new calender.

Fax machines are considered more secure than email.  There are is some data that my company prohibits me to send by email that I am allowed to fax (but only if the receiver is standing by the fax machine waiting for it to be received. )
Many government agencies only use faxes as email is public records.  Sounds like it's deceptive but it actually protects the public they are serving.
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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2014, 02:24:16 am »

We're way off topic. Let's bring it back around or close this out.
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« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2014, 11:01:08 am »

I truly don't know anyone of any age that keeps a landline. If I need to give out a fake number or something that I don't want to answer I give out my Google number.

 
We have a "landline", but its just a VOIP system(Ooma) that we pay $4 a month for and doesn't use the traditional twisted pair lines. When your kids have friends calling them to play it helps to have a separate family line than the friends calling your cell phone.
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« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2014, 11:18:11 am »

I think the "land line users" thing wasn't to illustrate a demographic, but just a way to methodize the polling process.  I think they can cold-call land lines for a survey but not cell phones because of the payment schedule.  So, the telephone survey yielded the "land line users" result.
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« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2014, 01:32:28 pm »

I think the "land line users" thing wasn't to illustrate a demographic, but just a way to methodize the polling process.  I think they can cold-call land lines for a survey but not cell phones because of the payment schedule.  So, the telephone survey yielded the "land line users" result.

Correct.  However, this skews results, as land line user demographics are not the same as US Citizen demographics.
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« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2014, 01:54:45 pm »

For the most part, "land line users" is going to skew towards the ancient, or unreasonably paranoid people like myself (I don't like putting all my eggs in the cellphone basket).

Since Republicans (notably: Fox News viewers) also skew ancient, that indicates a potential bias.
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