Philbin could stay even if we do not make the playoffs

[Rich]

I will give him Mitchell and Delmas (they slipped my mind honestly). Not giving him Satele because they only signed him once Pouncey went hurt, it was a last resort move out of necessity

Signing Mitchell was also a move out of necessity as they lost Paul Soliai in free agency.

[Brian Fein]

Earl Mitchell.  Louis Delmas.  Samson Satele.

Knowshon Moreno

[JGreenMachine]

Knowshon Moreno

I would stop short of calling that a good signing.  The man had one good game then was hurt.  The only reason he became a Dolphin was because of his injury proneness.

[MikeO]

Signing Mitchell was also a move out of necessity as they lost Paul Soliai in free agency.

They didn't lose Soliai, they refused to re-sign him. Big difference

[JGreenMachine]

They didn't lose Soliai, they refused to re-sign him. Big difference

Doesn't diminish the necessity.  You still have to replace him.

[Pappy13]

Remember one thing about Ross, he can have his cake and eat it too here with Jim Harbaugh. The one thing Ross loves more than the Fins is Michigan Football and he donates a ton of money to that school. And Michigan will be in the market for a new head coach at seasons end.  Harbaugh went to Michigan and is at the top of the schools list right now. Ross could keep Philbin on in Miami and help Michigan land Harbaugh to coach their football team. Then have an in with Harbaugh with all of his ties at Michigan, so when the day comes he has to replace Philbin, he has him already in the pipe-line waiting in the wings. And that would make Ross a very happy man!

Assuming that Harbaugh even wants to work for Ross which I don't get the impression that he does.

[JGreenMachine]

Assuming that Harbaugh even wants to work for Ross which I don't get the impression that he does.

I think he would if the conditions were right.  Think about this for a moment.  Would you want to go work for an owner who has a GM with a bad reputation around the league and has not yet fired his coach?   I wouldn't either.   On the other hand, if said owner gives me final say on player decisions or is willing to hire a GM that I know and trust (not to mention a huge wad of green) then I'd take the job

[EDGECRUSHER]

But why even keep him if we finish 10-6? It's pretty obvious that he is not a good head coach and his timeout management skills rival those of Andy Reid. That is not a compliment.

We shouldn't have to wait until we are 4-12 before getting rid of him, that is what the Jets did with Ryan and look how that turned out. Right now, we are 7-3 if Philbin doesn't screw up against Green Bay. He screwed up against Detroit too, but we don't need every mistake overturned to turn a loss into a win. Tannehill said last night after the game that the team feels that they are 8-2 after Michael Irvin said "You guys are 2 plays away from 8-2" and I think that is our talent level. However, our coaching level is 6-4.

I don't believe in continued mediocrity so we don't rock the boat. If you aren't going anywhere with him, get rid of him.

[JGreenMachine]

Samson Seattle...able to leap tall Space Needles in a single bound!

And do one handed behind the back catches of fish thrown to him at Pikes Place Market

[MikeO]

Assuming that Harbaugh even wants to work for Ross which I don't get the impression that he does.

I think Harbaugh is gonna chase the money with his next deal. Whether its Michigan or in the NFL

[Spider-Dan]

But why even keep him if we finish 10-6? It's pretty obvious that he is not a good head coach and his timeout management skills rival those of Andy Reid. That is not a compliment.

If the team is improving every year and the GM/OC/DC are winning in spite of Philbin, it's worth keeping him to keep them.

If you get rid of Philbin, then Hickey/Lazor/Coyle are gone in almost every plausible scenario.

[EDGECRUSHER]

If the team is improving every year and the GM/OC/DC are winning in spite of Philbin, it's worth keeping him to keep them.

If you get rid of Philbin, then Hickey/Lazor/Coyle are gone in almost every plausible scenario.

That's the only downside to getting rid of Philbin, losing Hickey and the assistant coaches, although reports recently came out that Lazor is wearing thin on the players with his attitude.

Still, at the very least, this is a 7-3 team that has been downgraded to 6-4 and outside the playoff picture because of Philbin. Windows don't last very long in the NFL, how many more years can we waste on this guy?

[MikeO]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000428604/article/could-the-oakland-raiders-land-jim-harbaugh

Philbin is safe. Ross doesn't want to fire him according to Ian Rapoport

[EDGECRUSHER]

Things change in the NFL from week to week. He doesn't want to fire him now, let's see what happens if Miami is 9-6 in Week 17 and we get blown out 35-3 at home to the Jets and miss the playoffs. Will Ross then say "Well, we went from 7-9 to 8-8 to 9-7, so that's improvement" or will he realize he was the wrong head coach?

Or, if Miami finishes 8-8 again and is eliminated from the playoffs in Week 15.

[MikeO]

Things change in the NFL from week to week. He doesn't want to fire him now, let's see what happens if Miami is 9-6 in Week 17 and we get blown out 35-3 at home to the Jets and miss the playoffs. Will Ross then say "Well, we went from 7-9 to 8-8 to 9-7, so that's improvement" or will he realize he was the wrong head coach?

Or, if Miami finishes 8-8 again and is eliminated from the playoffs in Week 15.

He kept Ireland on for years without firing him when everyone told him he was nuts. If Ross has it in his head he doesn't want to fire him now, I don't see how Philbin gets fired. We will see though