Philbin could stay even if we do not make the playoffs

[Spider-Dan]

Hue Jackson did well with the Raiders before Crazy Al Crazy Al's son booted him after one season.  I wouldn't mind seeing him in Miami.
I want no part of Tannenbaum, especially not over Hickey.

The '08 season with-standing (again last place schedule helped that team as the NFL sets that stuff up)

Because this keeps coming up:

The '08 team was not helped at all by their last-place schedule, as they lost both of the games (BAL, HOU) determined by that placing.

[Phishfan]

^^^ I don't know that you could blame the son there. He hired a GM, which that team desperately needed while Al was alive, who came in and decided to make the change. New GMs usually mean new coaches if the GM has the power.

[MikeO]

I can't buy into or get excited for Hue Jackson as Head Coach of the Dolphins. I'm sorry.  I think most fans would shrug and just not care at all if they hired him.

Quinn or Koetter.....I could buy into. Koetter especially since he has previous head coaching experience at Boise St and Arizona St and he has had success in the NFL as an OC.

[Spider-Dan]

Why are you excited for the guy with college HC experience and NFL OC experience, but not the guy with NFL HC and OC experience?

[MikeO]

Why are you excited for the guy with college HC experience and NFL OC experience, but not the guy with NFL HC and OC experience?

Because I have seen Hue Jackson coach and there is nothing to get excited about. He is not very good at all.  Koetter improved the offense in Jacksonville as their OC and had them at a Top 10 offense during his time there with the likes of David Garard and Mike Sims-Walker and they had little talent on that offense. And in Atlanta he has done very well with that offense  (granted they have superior talent at the skill positions) with just a miserable offensive line.

I will take a chance that Koetter MIGHT be a great head coach. I know Jackson isn't great and never will be.

[MikeO]

Miami Herald floated a couple other names to be on the Fins list after Harbaugh. The next one is Dungy but they say what we all know and that's he isn't leaving TV to come back to the coaching lifestyle. The other 2 interesting names is Kevin Sumlin at Texas AM (he wouldn't talk to NFL teams last year) and Gus Malzhan from Auburn (who refused to speak to the Browns last year about their job).  Add them to the list of guys on the Fins radar if/when Harbaugh turns Ross down again.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I really have no desire to have another coordinator or college coach learn on the job as head coach of Miami.

[MikeO]

I really have no desire to have another coordinator or college coach learn on the job as head coach of Miami.

I just don't want a guy with no head coaching experience. Which is why I am not a big fan of Quinn. Koetter has been a head coach before has been an NFL OC, so I got no problem with him. Sumlin is a great young offensive mind and has head coaching experience...I got no problem with him. Malzhan is coaching in the SEC so he can cut it in the NFL...lol, got no problem with him.

When you get to the Hue Jackson's, Jack Del Rio's of the world....I can't stomach it. Guys who have won nothing in this league (not all their fault) but guys who just bring little to the table to get excited about or will turn this franchise around. Give me the unkown over the known.

[Spider-Dan]

Because I have seen Hue Jackson coach and there is nothing to get excited about. He is not very good at all.  Koetter improved the offense in Jacksonville as their OC and had them at a Top 10 offense during his time there with the likes of David Garard and Mike Sims-Walker and they had little talent on that offense. And in Atlanta he has done very well with that offense  (granted they have superior talent at the skill positions) with just a miserable offensive line.

At the same time Koetter was OC in JAX, Jackson was OC in OAK with even less talent and finished 6th in scoring (JAX was 18th) and 10th in yards (JAX was 15th).

If we are going to hire a first-time NFL head coach, I want an OC/DC who ran a dominating offense/defense, not just a passable one; the STL Mike Martz/BAL Marvin Lewis/GB Joe Philbin-level performers.  So I'd rather take Dan Quinn (SEA's DC) than Koetter.

To me, either Quinn (dominating coordinator) or Jackson (experienced NFL HC who had his first try undeservedly cut short) would be preferable to Koetter (neither).

[Rich]

the STL Mike Martz/BAL Marvin Lewis/GB Joe Philbin-level performers.

Why is Joe Philbin's name in there with the other two guys? The guy was an OC in name only.

[Pappy13]

See this is the problem with firing Philbin. None of these guys (other than Harbaugh) sounds like an upgrade. At best they are of unknown promise. I'd really hate to bring in a guy who would do more harm than good and I think the chances of landing Harbaugh are slim and none. Philbin is not the answer, but I don't think he's the problem either. This team still needs more solid drafts and free agent signings to compete with the New Englands and the Denvers, so unless we think that's going to happen next year, bringing in one of these other head coaches has a small chance of making the team better and a better chance of making it worse.