two rules that need to be reformed this offseason

[MikeO]

the spot of the pass

That doesn't even make sense. The spot of the pass is where the QB throws it. The spot of the foul/penalty ........whatever. It makes no sense what you are saying

[dolphins4life]

Let's say it would normally be a 40 yard penalty under today's rules

cut that in half so it's just a twenty yard penalty.

[dolphins4life]

Was-Philly game today.  RIDICULOUS RTP call 

[MikeO]

Let's say it would normally be a 40 yard penalty under today's rules

cut that in half so it's just a twenty yard penalty.

In college that might work but with professionals it wouldn't. Teams would teach it and use it as a tool to just tackle a guy who beats the defender badly. Take the small penalty instead of the big play. Just make the PI reviewable and keep it a spot foul.

[Spider-Dan]

If you make judgement calls like PI and holding reviewable, the game will quickly grind to a halt.

[MikeO]

If you make judgement calls like PI and holding reviewable, the game will quickly grind to a halt.

No it won't. Because teams will ONLY have 2 challenges a game. So they can't challenge everything. Once your done with your 2 challenges that's it you can't challenge anymore. So who cares if they challenge a PI or or whether a guy stepped out of bounds or the spot of the ball. They need to get rid of the booth reviews under 2 minutes, all scoring plays and turnovers are automatically reviewed, get rid of all of that and just give each coach 2 challenges and let them challenge what they want, but that's it only 2. And if you get them right you get no more, you just get your 2. It will speed everything up

[Spider-Dan]

It will absolutely guarantee that every team uses every available challenge every game, which will have an impact.

And if you don't give a coach more challenges when every one he has was successful, then you are opening up the same old can of worms that got replay brought back in the first-place: a bad call that no one can do anything about.  It's one thing when you can blame the coach because he made a bad challenge, but if the coach is challenging successfully and he runs out, what does that say about the officiating?

[dolphins4life]

also get rid of taunting, the stupidest penalty in the history of all sports

[MikeO]

also get rid of taunting, the stupidest penalty in the history of all sports

It's the best rule. Guys make a 4 yard catch then go into a 2 minute dance routine. Gotta take that crap out of the game

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

It will absolutely guarantee that every team uses every available challenge every game, which will have an impact.

Nope.  The standard for an overrule would still be irrefutable with -- judgement calls that would make overturning them very difficult and most challenges would be lost even more often than with current rules that are challenged.   

Say with PI or holding the replay judge standard would not be does the replay judge consider it to be holding or PI but that the original ref would have to be fucking nuts to consider that PI or holding.  E.g. if a flag was thrown and the tape clearly shows that the player tripped on his own with zero contact from the defender would it likely be overturned. 

[Spider-Dan]

Then what's the point?

The number of PI calls with zero defender contact is insignificant.  If, in every other case, you defer to the judgement of the official, what difference would it make from the current system?

Officials can already huddle together and pick up flags in the case of egregiously wrong judgement calls.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

The point is they can look at tape to determine if an egregious call was made

[Spider-Dan]

I would tend to say that there are clear, indisputable holding calls (as the rule is written, not as it is commonly enforced) on nearly every play, and that instant replay of judgement calls would make it extremely difficult not to throw flags on them.

[dolphins4life]

It's the best rule. Guys make a 4 yard catch then go into a 2 minute dance routine. Gotta take that crap out of the game

Except that they don't call it then, they call it after big plays.

So stupid a penalty?  Taunting?  What's next?  Not being professional enough?

[Sunstroke]

So stupid a penalty?  Taunting?  What's next?  Not being professional enough?

Yeah, that's called Unsportsmanlike Conduct, and it's been around for a while.