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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2015, 08:54:20 pm »
Quote from: masterfins on January 02, 2015, 05:18:57 pm
Easy to understand why Marrone opted out.

That's a shame too...I think Marrone is a quality coach.
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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2015, 10:09:03 pm »
Don't know if this was brought up here. But when Kyle Orton "retired" after the season, the way he did it was sleezy. He walked into the team facility told people he had to go into a meeting, so he wouldn't have to talk to anyone and blew them off. Then he walked to his locker grabbed his wallet and left the facility without telling anyone. Then announced he was retiring from home and never spoke to anyone on the team.

Buffalo is a mess. Organization is a train-wreck
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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2015, 02:54:48 am »
Normally, that would be pretty sketchy.  But he came out of retirement to play in the first place, so I can't really fault the guy.
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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2015, 08:48:13 am »
Quote from: MikeO on January 03, 2015, 10:09:03 pm
Organization is a train-wreck
The way that Kyle Orton decides to retire is not a reflection on the organization. They had no control over that. Would Buffalo look better today had Kyle Orton talked to Buffalo and had them setup a press conference announcing his retirement? No. They still are without a starting QB either way.
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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2015, 08:53:32 am »
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The way that Kyle Orton decides to retire is not a reflection on the organization. They had no control over that. Would Buffalo look better today had Kyle Orton talked to Buffalo and had them setup a press announcement of his retirement? No. They still are without a starting QB either way.

YES.....It would be much better!! Sounds like everyone leaves the organization running away. Doug didn't talk to his team and sent them a mass text after the news had already broke and everyone knew and he was badmouthing the organization to Polian while he was under contract and before he "officially left." Orton lied to his teammates faces, walked by them, and left the building through the back door without talking to anyone and letting him know he is retiring. It's chaos. Its a dysfunctional organization when people feel like its OK to lie and run away without telling anyone
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« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2015, 09:01:36 am »
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YES.....It would be much better!! Sounds like everyone leaves the organization running away. Doug didn't talk to his team and sent them a mass text after the news had already broke and everyone knew and he was badmouthing the organization to Polian while he was under contract and before he "officially left." Orton lied to his teammates faces, walked by them, and left the building through the back door without talking to anyone and letting him know he is retiring. It's chaos. Its a dysfunctional organization when people feel like its OK to lie and run away without telling anyone
I worded that question poorly. What I should have said is "Would Buffalo be better today had Kyle Orton talked to Buffalo and had them setup a press conference announcing his retirement?" Did you think Miami was a dysfunctional organization when players were verbally abusing each other and had players walking out on the team last year? The organization is to blame when people feel like that's OK? There's a big difference between perception and reality.
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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2015, 10:09:39 am »
Quote from: Pappy13 on January 04, 2015, 09:01:36 am
I worded that question poorly. What I should have said is "Would Buffalo be better today had Kyle Orton talked to Buffalo and had them setup a press conference announcing his retirement?" Did you think Miami was a dysfunctional organization when players were verbally abusing each other and had players walking out on the team last year? The organization is to blame when people feel like that's OK? There's a big difference between perception and reality.

Yes. Yes. and Yes! When the organization is dysfunctional players think this behavior is ok. Orton should have told the organization he was retiring before it went public. Sorry. You can't teach class...some have it and some don't. Right now the Bills organization is lacking class from top to bottom.
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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2015, 11:25:41 am »
Quote from: MikeO on January 04, 2015, 10:09:39 am
When the organization is dysfunctional players think this behavior is ok.
Then we agree to disagree. Even excellent organizations sometimes employ classless people. I grew up believing people were responsible for their own actions. I don't know if that's just a generational thing or simply how I was brought up but it does seem to be quite different from a lot of people's perspective these days. If your position is that any team with someone capable of doing something classless is dysfunctional then 100% of NFL teams are dysfunctional, not just the Bills. The only difference between the Bills, Miami and everyone else is time.
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« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2015, 06:19:11 pm »
Rex getting a 2nd interview with the Bills

Looks like he is staying in the AFC East
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« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2015, 10:34:38 pm »
Fox next to go?
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« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2015, 07:37:54 am »
Let's say you wanted to get rid of Fox. Who would you replace him with?

There just don't seem to be a lot of quality head coaching candidates available right now. Even Kubiak turned down offers to interview and is staying in Baltimore.

And, yes, I realize the media is filled with speculation about Denver's OC taking over from Fox. That would make for a strange move, IMHO.
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« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2015, 08:22:21 am »
It is pretty rare to fire a coach in a season in which the team wins the division.
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« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2015, 05:22:18 pm »
Jon Fox FIRED by Denver
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« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2015, 05:34:36 pm »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 12, 2015, 08:22:21 am
It is pretty rare to fire a coach in a season in which the team wins the division.

It might be but it happened this year.  Fox has been let go by Denver.
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« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2015, 05:50:57 pm »
What I have read it was mutual
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