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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2015, 06:03:09 pm »

Jordan Cameron left Miami and signed with the Browns
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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2015, 06:07:14 pm »

I wasn't referring to a larger contract as a poison pill, I was talking about extremely front loading a deal so a team couldn't match the offer. Poison pills are different, like when New England offered Welker large bonuses for playing more than 2 games a year in Miami.

As far as Clay goes, who wants to go to Cleveland or Buffalo over Miami? Almost all the time you go to the team who pays you the most, but we have no state income tax. That's a big factor, not to mention it's easier to produce with an actual NFL QB and not whatever the hell Cleveland and Buffalo have. Much more likely to be cut in Year 2 or 3 with poor numbers due to a poor QB from those teams than in Miami.
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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2015, 08:14:13 pm »

Cameron is signing with miami tonight. initial media report was wrong
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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2015, 08:33:15 pm »

Cameron plus Sims sounds fine to me. You can't break the bank for a player like Clay, although I do hope that Cameron isn't getting the same money as whatever Clay gets.
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« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2015, 08:55:04 pm »

Cameron just signed with Miami.
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« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2015, 09:15:31 pm »

Clay flying to Miami to work on a deal.

Could Miami have BOTH Clay and Cameron. HOLY SHIT!
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« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2015, 11:05:22 pm »

2 Years/$15 Million for Cameron. Wonder what Clay will get from Buffalo now that they know we almost definitely won't match their offer? Certainly has to hurt it.
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« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2015, 08:38:14 am »

Clay is in Miami and waiting on an offer from the Bills that they told him will come today or tomorrow. Bills probably will lower their offer to Clay now that they know Miami is out of the picture
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« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2015, 09:53:30 am »

Clay is in Miami and waiting on an offer from the Bills that they told him will come today or tomorrow. Bills probably will lower their offer to Clay now that they know Miami is out of the picture

Why is Miami out of the picture?
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« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2015, 09:58:02 am »

Why is Miami out of the picture?

The news is trickling in bit by bit but reports are Clay flew back to Miami on the Bills owners private jet. The Bills told him they will offer him a deal today or tomorrow they just want to structure it right so it doesn't negatively effect their cap this year and beyond, which is the cause for the delay. Why would Clay sign for 1 year $7 mill in Miami by signing his tender when the Bills will give him a multi year deal with more than $7 mill guaranteed. The ONLY reason Miami hasn't removed the transition tag/tender is to just mess with Buffalo's head some. I mean Clay could sign it at any time and come back to Miami for 1 year at $7 mill but for him that makes little sense when he is about to be offered a long-term deal with more guaranteed money.
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« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2015, 10:06:00 am »

I don't know if you're right on this Mike.  Multiple media sources state that Miami is still working on a long term deal with Clay and has left the transition tag there in hopes of getting it done.  They speculated that it was a concern with Cameron's durability and wanted Clay as insurance.

I don't think its "to mess with Buffalo's head"

Buffalo may still win out, but if they reduce their offer it will probably piss him off.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Dolphins had Clay and Cameron locked up before the end of the day.
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« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2015, 10:20:21 am »

I don't know if you're right on this Mike.  Multiple media sources state that Miami is still working on a long term deal with Clay and has left the transition tag there in hopes of getting it done.  They speculated that it was a concern with Cameron's durability and wanted Clay as insurance.

I don't think its "to mess with Buffalo's head"

Buffalo may still win out, but if they reduce their offer it will probably piss him off.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Dolphins had Clay and Cameron locked up before the end of the day.

Look I hope they re-sign them, and obviously this is a fluid situation with a lot of misinformation out there. But they are leaving it on him to mess with Buffalo there is no doubt about that. Cause they open themselves up to risk by leaving it on him. Cause if he signs it he kills their cap for this year and eats up every last cent of cap space they have and forced them to cut players to just sign their draft picks. 
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« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2015, 10:39:30 am »

Look I hope they re-sign them, and obviously this is a fluid situation with a lot of misinformation out there. But they are leaving it on him to mess with Buffalo there is no doubt about that. Cause they open themselves up to risk by leaving it on him. Cause if he signs it he kills their cap for this year and eats up every last cent of cap space they have and forced them to cut players to just sign their draft picks. 

We still have flexibility. Ellerbe is still on the roster. Right now, Wheeler still counts against the cap. Designated as post June 1st cuts, those guys will open up almost $12 million in cap room.

And as of right now, Clay's tender already counts against the cap.
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« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2015, 03:55:27 pm »

The HYSTERICAL trade for Stills has cleared $6 Million in cap space for us. So, they can make it work with Clay if they want to. It really is up to him, if he signs a heavily front loaded deal, then he wants out of Miami.
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« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2015, 09:09:27 pm »

Reporter Tim Graham is reporting the Fins have told Clay they are moving on and will not be re-signing him as they can't play this waiting game any longer. Clay to the Bills will happen very soon per reports
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