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Rich
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« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2015, 01:20:32 pm »
Quote from: MikeO on March 06, 2015, 01:15:51 pm
They have salary cap issues Miami doesn't have. And they franchised tagged him hoping to buy themselves time to fix those issues and they couldn't.  And he still may go back there if the Lions make a touch choice and get rid of a couple good players.

Not sure what you're talking about here. The Lions are almost $20 million under the cap. The Dolphins less than $2 million (not counting cap rollover of about $7 million).
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« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2015, 01:24:03 pm »
^^they have to pay draft picks, they have other needs to desperately fill. Take away that money and they have nothing for Suh.

Miami can cut like 3 or 4 more guys and have over $10 more mill to spend than Detroit. And Miami will cut those guys. Lions can re-sign Suh but it handcuffs their entire offseason

Lions can make some touch calls and create space for Suh, they just don't want to at this time. By Tuesday that may change
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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2015, 01:37:34 pm »
Suh is not going to eat up $20 mil or even $15 mil in year one, no matter where he goes.

Detroit has more cap space now and will have virtually the same amount of cap space in 2016.

The big difference is Detroit has a lot of money tied up in their elite WR and franchise QB. We haven't gotten there yet, but make no mistake, we're going to have to pay Tannehill sooner or later.

I think Detroit could make it work to resign Suh. The only reason they didn't franchise him is because then that cap space would get eaten up immediately. Their hands were tied, but again make no mistake, they could pay him if they really wanted to.
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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2015, 02:06:44 pm »
Quote from: Rich on March 06, 2015, 01:37:34 pm


I think Detroit could make it work to resign Suh. The only reason they didn't franchise him is because then that cap space would get eaten up immediately. Their hands were tied, but again make no mistake, they could pay him if they really wanted to.

And they might. They have till Tuesday.
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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2015, 06:17:34 pm »
Quote from: Rich on March 06, 2015, 01:37:34 pm
Suh is not going to eat up $20 mil or even $15 mil in year one, no matter where he goes.


Probably not, but his asking price is $18 - $20 mil. per year.
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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2015, 06:33:46 pm »
Quote from: masterfins on March 06, 2015, 06:17:34 pm
Probably not, but his asking price is $18 - $20 mil. per year.

Mike Wallace's cap hit was I believe $3.25 mill his first year in Miami. Then jumped year 2. There are creative ways around these things to make it work
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« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2015, 12:25:35 pm »
NFL Network reporting Chargers are jumping in with both feet on Suh. They are gonna make a hard push to land him
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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2015, 09:40:36 pm »
Go Chargers!
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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2015, 10:35:33 pm »
Whatever happens, hope it ends quickly so we have a chance to re-sign Odrick or get Wilfork.
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« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2015, 08:36:46 am »
Jason Cole and Charles Robinson reporting it's done. Suh is a Miami Dolphin.

Lions are the only team that can change that prior to Tuesday at 4pm at this point. Suh isn't talking to any other teams and has a deal in place with Miami
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« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2015, 09:24:14 am »
I assume this means that we are confident Jamar Taylor and Will Davis can turn it on and become NFL level corners. Otherwise, we just filled one of our holes with all the money we had left.

Draft that Shaquille kid at Linebacker in the 1st round and just add from there. Still need TWO guards though and that should be our biggest priority.
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« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2015, 01:13:56 pm »
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I assume this means that we are confident Jamar Taylor and Will Davis can turn it on and become NFL level corners. Otherwise, we just filled one of our holes with all the money we had left.

Draft that Shaquille kid at Linebacker in the 1st round and just add from there. Still need TWO guards though and that should be our biggest priority.

I am fine with Jamar Taylor as a #2 or #3 CB, Taylor is legit!  Davis not so much. They still need 1 CB, 2 Guards, 1 Safety. 1 LB, 1 backup RB. Signing Suh doesn't end free agency for Miami, not by a long shot
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« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2015, 01:16:39 pm »
It's Official!! Chris Mortensen who is BFF's with Suh's agent. Mort even has the numbers

6 years, $114 mill....$60 mill guaranteed in the first 3 years.

Suh is a Miami Dolphin
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« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2015, 01:38:12 pm »
$20 Million guaranteed a year for the first 3 years? Holy shit, that's insane. Did Brady or Manning ever make that?

The truth is, these numbers really don't tell the whole story because NFL contracts are weird. We have no idea what the cap hit will be now and for the next few years. Maybe it's not crippling.

Still, Tannenbaum's history does not give him the benefit of the doubt. Ii just hope we are okay in 2016 when we fire Philbin and can really start to try to win again.
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« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2015, 02:16:27 pm »
Worst news we possibly could have gotten.

It would not surprise me in the slightest to learn that our front office was sabotaging things from the inside.
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