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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2015, 11:51:39 pm »

Right now, Rashard Matthews is a starting WR.

You ok with that?

No, but I would rather start Rashard Matthews than use our 1st rounder on a WR.
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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2015, 03:03:37 pm »

Cover32 did a mock draft which has the Dolphins selecting DGB at 14.

http://cover32.com/2015/03/18/nfl-mock-draft-2015-round-one-version-1-0/

(Just don't scroll all the way down if you're at work)
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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2015, 03:21:47 pm »

Cover32 did a mock draft which has the Dolphins selecting DGB at 14.

http://cover32.com/2015/03/18/nfl-mock-draft-2015-round-one-version-1-0/

(Just don't scroll all the way down if you're at work)

It's a fan-site, can't take that seriously. Just one "fans" opinion and no real insight to back that pick up
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« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2015, 03:59:22 pm »

What's the difference if its a fan site or not?  They "cover" all "32" teams, so there's not really a bias.

Mock drafts are just supposition.  All mock drafts are worthless.
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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2015, 05:10:32 pm »

What's the difference if its a fan site or not?  They "cover" all "32" teams, so there's not really a bias.

Mock drafts are just supposition.  All mock drafts are worthless.

Missed my point. Some kid sitting in his parents basement did that mock draft. They don't cover all 32 teams, they employ FANS of those teams to run the team page. Not a paid reporter or someone with a press pass or who was at the combine. It is a site run by fans. Hardly anything to put any credence in. I mean god bless anyone who runs a fan site out of passion for their favorite team. But they aren't "paid reporters" with "inside or inside info" putting together those mocks. It's no different than anyone of us making a "Mock Draft" and trying to pass it off as something that is legit.
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« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2015, 06:44:06 pm »

It is a site run by fans. Hardly anything to put any credence in.

So kinda like 90% of your opinionated posts, no reason to put any credence into what you are saying.  Got it.
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« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2015, 11:25:04 pm »

So kinda like 90% of your opinionated posts, no reason to put any credence into what you are saying.  Got it.

yeah but I am not passing a mock draft off or my thoughts off as anything official or anything more than one fans thoughts. I am just voicing an opinion. I'm not putting my thoughts up there next to Jay Glazer's or Adam Schefter's and pretending my opinions have equal value to theris  Roll Eyes

If a "fan" puts out a mock draft, that's fine. But Mike Mayock's and Mel Kiper's actually have some merit to them. Didn't think I really had to explain that
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« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2015, 11:32:56 am »

Maybe I am not understanding, but if the members of this web forum did a mock draft, is it not still a mock draft?

I don't understand why it has to be members of the media to be considered "valid"
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2015, 11:36:46 am »

Maybe I am not understanding, but if the members of this web forum did a mock draft, is it not still a mock draft?

I don't understand why it has to be members of the media to be considered "valid"

It's still a mock draft, but not one you can take seriously. That's all.

If you want to read into it and think its something legit, go for it.

That's all I'm saying and honestly this is a silly topic
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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2015, 12:18:17 pm »

MikeO is pretty spot on when it comes to mock drafts...

I'm probably about as much a junkie for the mock draft glitterati as anyone, and anyone who knows me well will tell you that is a gross understatement. Since the end of the regular season, I have mock drafted either the 49ers or Dolphins "at least" a hundred times (using http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/). The vast majority of mock drafts, especially those done by fans of a particular team, can best be subtitled "These are the players I really want" and nothing more. However, there are "real" mock drafts, those done by impartial analysts and so-called experts, that can be looked at as more than just pigskin pipe dreaming. The Kipers, McShays, Mayocks, Brandts and Cherepinskys of the world actually look at pertinent information like the following to make a sincere effort to predict which teams will take which players.:

* What systems each team runs, and how individual prospects fit within each system. Just because a team needs a defensive tackle, it doesn't mean that the best DT on the board is a good fit for that team.

* Contract status of individual players currently on each team's rosters. Teams aren't just drafting to fill their needs for this year, but to fill needs for players likely to leave the next year and the year after that.

* Displayed interest. Which prospects are individual teams talking to at showcase events like the Senior Bowl, Shrine Game and Combine, and which front office personnel are going to which prospects' Pro Days.

Once you factor ALL of that type of information into the equation, you can start to get a feel for which players might actually be selected by which teams. In the end though, it is still a crapshoot, and even the most "sure thing" prediction of a team grabbing a specific player at a specific draft slot isn't ever really a sure thing until their name actually gets called at the podium.



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« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2015, 01:04:25 pm »

It was just a point of interest, since you guys were discussing that particular player.

Sorry, I'll never post anything ever again.  Jesus.
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« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2015, 06:47:26 pm »

Sorry, I'll never post anything ever again.  Jesus.

Jesus does a decent mock draft...


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« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2015, 11:08:15 pm »

Maybe their receiving corps will be fine after all

Look at the receiving stats from 2008:  The top receivers were Ginn, Camarillo, and Bess.  None had more than 56 catches that year and the Dolphins still won the division.

Maybe having some solid players will be the best thing after all, rather than a single well known player
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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2015, 12:05:01 am »

If Tom Brady is out for 15 games, I have no doubt MIA can win the division with the current receiving corps.
I mean, if that was your point.
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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2015, 12:06:59 am »

Landry was great last year and should improve like all talented rookies. Wallace was swapped for Stills and if you go by stats and not by salary, we either stayed the same or slightly upgraded. Hartline and Gibson were useless and can be replaced by 6th rounders. Clay's 600 yards are gone and replaced by a very high upside/low downside player in Cameron. If he stays healthy, we improved.

Not saying it's Clayton and Duper, but I am still not seeing the urgency with the WR situation.
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