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« on: April 27, 2015, 06:45:17 pm »

Miami is currently picking 14th....predict what they will do with that pick and answer the following 3 questions..

-Trade Up/Trade Down/Stay at #14
-Who will they select
-What player do you not want to see Miami take in Rd 1 and would upset you if they took them
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2015, 08:05:08 am »

I truly believe at this position MIA needs to take the best player available in the draft.  I truly hope Gurley is there at 14th.  Injury aside, he is a beast and will be a difference maker in the NFL if his knee holds up long term.  I don't know if he'll be there when MIA drafts, but if he is, MIA should take him.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2015, 09:05:09 am »

I truly believe at this position MIA needs to take the best player available in the draft.  I truly hope Gurley is there at 14th.  Injury aside, he is a beast and will be a difference maker in the NFL if his knee holds up long term.  I don't know if he'll be there when MIA drafts, but if he is, MIA should take him.

If Gurley is the next Adrian Peterson I have no problem with Miami taking him. I will trust the judgment on Hickey and Tannenbaum if they think he is on that level though and I won't flip out if they do take him.  I'm just not sure he is on that level which is why I have my doubts.  To me this is a smokescreen from Day 1. Miami is building up his stock and hype hoping a team trades ABOVE them to take him, hence pushing someone they might really want down to them at 14.

To me...

-I think Miami stays at #14
-I think they will select DeVante Parker at #14
-If they drafted Trey Waynes I would be upset (I don't think CB is a need this year and I think Waynes is a bit overrated)
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2015, 09:16:36 am »

They stay at 14.
I have no idea who they take. It will depend on the best player available so I expect a lineman or CB depending on how things go.
I do not want to see them draft Gurley. Running backs can be found anywhere and I don't think he will warrant a #14 selection.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2015, 09:28:35 am »

-Stay at #14
-I think they will take:
   1) Parker
   2) Gurley
   3) Waynes
-I don't want them to draft Waynes.  I've heard a lot of chatter that he's overrated.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2015, 10:23:29 am »

-Stay at #14
-I think they will take:
   1) Parker
   2) Gurley

I'd be fine with either of these picks, and like you said, wouldn't go nuts if they didn't draft Gurley, but I've got a feeling about him.  Watched alot of SEC games and he's got good burst and power.  I know the knee surgery is a concern, but I've read that problems with this surgery is at 2-3% long term.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2015, 10:33:33 am »

I'd be fine with either of these picks, and like you said, wouldn't go nuts if they didn't draft Gurley, but I've got a feeling about him.  Watched alot of SEC games and he's got good burst and power.  I know the knee surgery is a concern, but I've read that problems with this surgery is at 2-3% long term.

I am totally against drafting RB's early in drafts, its a devalued position in the NFL these days and not worth it. The one exception is if this guy is Adrian Peterson level then you take him. The injury doesn't bother me much cause we do have Miller. So even if he starts the year on PUP so be it we are fine. Miller would be gone after this year (his contract is up) and you move forward with Gurley long-term as your feature back since you took him so high in Rd 1.

My issue is if we draft Gurley then in Rd 2 you better take a GUARD, cause why have a great RB if you have no blocking for him. Build up around him and Tannehill otherwise its a wasted pick. Even the best RB's need blocking otherwise they are just 2 to 3 yard per carry guys
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2015, 10:49:46 am »


Miami has more needs than picks this year, imo, and their biggest needs (OG, ILB) are at positions where the value just isn't there at the 14 slot (unless Scherff is there). With that situation, I'd listen to trade down offers and try to bump down into the low-mid 20's in order to add a 2nd-3rd round pick. From there, you could still draft a stud guard like La'el Collins or a stud ILB like Eric Kendricks, and then have picks in place to grab the other position, plus a high quality CB and WR, in the next 2 rounds.

So... Trade Down

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2015, 10:56:03 am »

^^^I hear talk that Gurley is Adrian Peterson level.  I completely agree about taking RBs early in the draft, but he is being ranked the 2nd best prospect (behind Winston) in this entire draft.  He may be too good to pass on.
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2015, 12:14:31 pm »


^^^ I think the hype machine has worked Gurley up even higher than he should be. Do I think he can be a stud NFL RB? Sure, in the right situation. Do I see him as being much better than Melvin Gordon? Not really. Besides, Miami has two situations that argue against Gurley. First, Miami is still building its offensive line. Second, Miami already has a very good RB that, despite a mediocre O-line, still churns out one of the best yards per carry average in the league. I think Miami should continue building that line for Lamar to run behind, and add another quality receiver to keep defenses from loading up against the run.

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2015, 12:24:06 pm »

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2015, 12:38:50 pm »

^^^He might be over-hyped, but it's hard to argue against it.  He's built a lot like AP (Height: 6-1. Weight: 222) and has speed like him (40 Time: 4.45).  Just saying, I wouldn't be upset if MIA drafted him.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2015, 03:45:26 pm »

I agree with MikeO ... I think Gurley is a smokescreen so they can force a trade or hope someone else trades up to get him which would allow someone else to fall.
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2015, 04:45:29 pm »

I have no idea who they'll pick.  I hope it's not RB, because like Mike, I just don't think it's a value position.

I predict that they'll stay at 14.  You just have to give up way too much to move up and we need a playmaker at too many positions to trade down.
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2015, 10:33:14 pm »

Are we seriously going to draft Gurley and make an 1,100 yard rusher a backup? The BEST Running Backs in the NFL rush for 1,300 yards and with a worse YPC than Lamar Miller. Are those 200 yards worth not getting a WR or OG?

Gurley is a luxury and we are poor.
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