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MikeO
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2015, 06:34:26 am »

Are we seriously going to draft Gurley and make an 1,100 yard rusher a backup? The BEST Running Backs in the NFL rush for 1,300 yards and with a worse YPC than Lamar Miller. Are those 200 yards worth not getting a WR or OG?

Gurley is a luxury and we are poor.


Miller is in the final year of his deal. If the Fins draft Gurley then Miler plays out this year and the Fins won't re-sign him is the message that is being sent. And I get it, Miller is an above average back but no superstar and Gurley could be a special back.  But honestly I don't care who the RB is...if the Fins don't improve the o-line it won't matter. IF Miami takes Gurley then in Rd 2 they better invest in a guard otherwise you aren't helping Gurley (or Tannehill). Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner at guard isn't' good enough. I don't know how many times they have to watch Dallas Thomas get beat until they realize he can't play
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2015, 11:05:22 am »


Miller is in the final year of his deal. If the Fins draft Gurley then Miler plays out this year and the Fins won't re-sign him is the message that is being sent. And I get it, Miller is an above average back but no superstar and Gurley could be a special back.  But honestly I don't care who the RB is...if the Fins don't improve the o-line it won't matter. IF Miami takes Gurley then in Rd 2 they better invest in a guard otherwise you aren't helping Gurley (or Tannehill). Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner at guard isn't' good enough. I don't know how many times they have to watch Dallas Thomas get beat until they realize he can't play

Not to mention that Miller was brought in by Jeff Ireland and Mike Tannenbaum owes him nothing.  Tannenbaum!s teams have always featured an elite ruining back
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2015, 11:30:55 am »

Either you and I have different definitions of the word or you are mistaken. While the Jets had good running backs, I cannot consider any of them elite.
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2015, 11:32:15 am »

Either you and I have different definitions of the word or you are mistaken. While the Jets had good running backs, I cannot consider any of them elite.

Ladanian Tomlinson was not elite?
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2015, 11:40:32 am »

Ladanian Tomlinson was not elite?

In his two years with the Jets, No.
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2015, 11:43:27 am »

Yeah, when Tomlinson was with the Jets, he was way past his prime.
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2015, 11:43:59 am »

Not to mention that Miller was brought in by Jeff Ireland and Mike Tannenbaum owes him nothing.  Tannenbaum!s teams have always featured an elite ruining back

That's got nothing to do with anything. With that logic Tannenbaum would get rid of the entire team since he brought none of these guys in.

Tanenbaum never had an elite RB in NY.
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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2015, 12:23:18 pm »

That's got nothing to do with anything. With that logic Tannenbaum would get rid of the entire team since he brought none of these guys in.

Tanenbaum never had an elite RB in NY.

Sure it does.   Most new coaches/GMs tend to turn over the roster to bring in "their guys". 
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2015, 12:25:31 pm »

Sure it does.   Most new coaches/GMs tend to turn over the roster to bring in "their guys". 

He's not the GM he is the president. And the GM and Head Coach is the same as last year. Your stance makes zero sense
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2015, 02:41:28 pm »

https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/593483254029746177

LaCanfora with news on the Phins...(probably ends up being wrong) he is bound to get one right eventually  https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/593483254029746177

Continue to hear Miami very interested in moving up for DeVante Parker. St. Louis at 10th overall a natural match. Rams willing to go down
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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2015, 03:01:44 pm »

I think (hope) they stay at #14 because they can adequately address one of their needs there without having to move.  I subscribe to the approach of identify your top few position needs and then take the highest player you have rated at any of those positions when you get to your pick (unless you have one position that is just a huge, glaring weakness that you MUST fill).

Given that, and assuming that Cooper and White are both gone by the time the Fins pick, here is my Rd 1 Wish List in order (based upon who I realistically think might be available).
G Brandon Scherff
WR DeVante Parker
OLB Dante Fowler
CB Trae Waynes

If all 4 of them are gone by #14, I would consider trading back a little bit and try to pick up a 3rd rounder since they don't currently have one.


Just for the hell of it, here is my list of guys that I would jump on in Round 2 if any of them happen to fall that low.
Collins, LSU
Yeldon, Alabama
Beasley, Clemson
Perriman, UCF
Harold, Virginia
Tomlinson, Duke
Kendricks, UCLA
Cann, South Carolina
K. Johnson, Wake Forest
B. Jones, Connecticut
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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2015, 03:05:13 pm »

Miami drafts a return specialist with a good family.     Evil

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. 
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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2015, 03:15:09 pm »

I think (hope) they stay at #14 because they can adequately address one of their needs there without having to move.  I subscribe to the approach of identify your top few position needs and then take the highest player you have rated at any of those positions when you get to your pick (unless you have one position that is just a huge, glaring weakness that you MUST fill).

Given that, and assuming that Cooper and White are both gone by the time the Fins pick, here is my Rd 1 Wish List in order (based upon who I realistically think might be available).
G Brandon Scherff
WR DeVante Parker
OLB Dante Fowler
CB Trae Waynes


Fowler will be gone by #3. No chance he gets to 14
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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2015, 03:21:21 pm »

Fowler will be gone by #3. No chance he gets to 14

I don't know about him being gone by #3, but I'd say he is most likely gone by about #8.  But I threw him in there just because every year someone inexplicably drops and he was just my "wish upon a star" for this year.   Grin   

If the Fins can get Scherff in RD 1, I might even take a look at Jay Ajayi (RB) in Rd 2.
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« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2015, 03:39:04 pm »

Fowler is a Top 5 player. He won't get out of the Top 5
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