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Dolphster
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« on: May 01, 2015, 03:25:02 pm »
Here's a "how much of a gambler are you" question for the board.  La'el Collins, Tackle from LSU.  Was supposed to be a 1st rounder.  Day before the draft his ex girlfriend turns up dead.  Police are saying he is NOT a suspect, but they wanted to talk to him so he left Chicago and went home to talk to them.  Talk is that he is going to go into free fall mode in the draft even though at this time, the police are saying he is not a suspect.  Key part of that phrase is the "at this time" aspect of it. 

Here is the question.  Let's say he is still there when the Fins get to their round 2 pick.  Still needing OL help, do you roll the dice on a round 1 talent and hope that he has truly nothing to do with the crime?  Or, let's say he REALLY falls off the map and he is there in the 4th round.  Do you take a roll of the dice with a 4th round pick on him?
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Phishfan
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2015, 03:29:58 pm »
I was high on Collins before this broke. This is a very sticky situation. There has been some discussion that Collins might sit out a year if he falls too low. He already attempted to remove his name from the draft. I'd say if he keeps falling he isn't going to play so I don't think I'd use a pick on him.
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2015, 03:34:34 pm »
Good point about the possibility of him sitting out.  I did see where he asked to be removed from the draft and the NFL declined.  I wouldn't spend a Round 2 pick on him at this juncture, but if he was there in Round 4 (or later), I might be tempted to roll the dice. It sure would be nice to pick up Round 1 talent for the O-Line in Round 4.  But like you said, the possibility of him sitting out would make it a really dicey move.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2015, 06:00:37 pm »
Collins and his agent just put out a release saying if he isn't drafted tonight he won't sign with anyone this year or play with anyone this year and will re-enter the draft next year.

So Collins NFL career is all but over...lol. When your name is tied into a murder investigation  in some way shape or form,you shouldn't be giving 32 NFL teams ultimatums. 

Can't fix Stupid!
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2015, 06:24:09 pm »
He must believe in his innocence to issue this ultimatum. I can see him being very angry that this happened and cost him a ton of money, but who would spend a 1st rounder on a guy who hasn't played in an entire year? I can't imagine his value getting any higher than it is right now.

Like I said, sucks for him if he has no connection to the crime, but his best chance is to just play now.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2015, 07:02:46 pm »
Collins was just informed by the NFL if he goes undrafted he can't re-enter the draft next year.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2015, 07:49:28 pm »
This kid either got what he deserved or was royally screwed. We won't know until the investigation comes out. I say take a chance on him, wouldn't be the worst pick we've ever made if it blows up in our faces. Kid has a very high ceiling and would make the O-Line elite. Our offense would be Top 10 if we got him and he avoided bunking with Aaron Hernandez.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2015, 08:07:11 pm »
I'd be too chicken to take him in round 2, but if he is there in the 4th I would take a flyer on him.
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2015, 08:15:10 pm »
"Please take the gamble!!!" - Ryan Tannehill
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2015, 08:17:52 pm »
Quote from: Dolphster on May 01, 2015, 08:07:11 pm
I'd be too chicken to take him in round 2, but if he is there in the 4th I would take a flyer on him.

he said he won't play if he is taken after Round 3.
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2015, 08:28:00 pm »
I think the nfl subsequently said he couldnt enter the supplemental OR regular draft next year though. If true, he will want to reconsider that stance.
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2015, 08:34:27 pm »
Yes, that's true. The NFL stomped on his plans, so it's either play for who you are drafted for or enjoy the CFL.
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2015, 08:35:35 pm »
Quote from: Dolphster on May 01, 2015, 08:28:00 pm
I think the nfl subsequently said he couldnt enter the supplemental OR regular draft next year though. If true, he will want to reconsider that stance.
That is if he is undrafted. Nothing is stopping him if he does.
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2015, 10:50:21 pm »
Police say he is not a suspect in the murder.

At one point, Aaron Hernandez was not a suspect in Odin Lloyd's murder.

Turns out the baby survived the shooting.   If Collins is the father, we could be looking at another Rae Carruth situation.
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2015, 10:53:27 pm »
Since we have no other options, I'd say use one of our 5th rounders on him. Those picks are for depth and projects anyway.
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