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« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2015, 03:36:23 pm »

I am as pessimistic as they come with this team because they have proven that they will disappoint despite the talent. That being said, even I will admit that signing this kid would give us the best O-Line in football(or 2nd next to the Cowboys)and make our offense elite with the new weapons.

Hell, I may even up my projection to 9-7!
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« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2015, 03:45:19 pm »

I am as pessimistic as they come with this team because they have proven that they will disappoint despite the talent. That being said, even I will admit that signing this kid would give us the best O-Line in football(or 2nd next to the Cowboys)and make our offense elite with the new weapons.

Hell, I may even up my projection to 9-7!

Getting this kid does 2 big things for the Fins. 1) This year they play him at Left Guard and they have a dominate o-line Albert/Collins/Pouncey/Turner/James. I mean this kid was a Top 10-15 pick this year in the draft. A legit talent.  2) Next year they can cut Branden Albert if they want to open up cap space, move James to LT, move Collins to RT. IF the Fins need cap space or IF Albert isn't the same player after the injury and they want to move on an. Adding Collins gives the Fins flexibility. Especially if Turner proves the coaches right and is a legit starting guard in this league
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« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2015, 04:36:15 pm »

Getting this kid does 2 big things for the Fins. 1) This year they play him at Left Guard and they have a dominate o-line Albert/Collins/Pouncey/Turner/James. I mean this kid was a Top 10-15 pick this year in the draft. A legit talent.  2) Next year they can cut Branden Albert if they want to open up cap space, move James to LT, move Collins to RT. IF the Fins need cap space or IF Albert isn't the same player after the injury and they want to move on an. Adding Collins gives the Fins flexibility. Especially if Turner proves the coaches right and is a legit starting guard in this league

It would be more likely to move Collings to LT than James. James was pretty awful at LT.
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« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2015, 04:55:07 pm »

It would be more likely to move Collings to LT than James. James was pretty awful at LT.
I thought he did pretty well once he got his feet wet.
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« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2015, 05:03:48 pm »

I thought he did pretty well once he got his feet wet.

The numbers and metrics say differently. Things to consider:

- James finished rated lower than Dallas Thomas at the tackle position

- When Albert went down, the Dolphins were ranked 15th in pass blocking efficiency, they finished the season ranked dead last

- James gave up 4 sacks and 23 pressures in 6 starts at left tackle. He gave up 2 sacks and 29 pressures in 10 starts at right tackle.

- James graded out very negative in his last four games of the season.
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« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2015, 05:09:42 pm »

When I said pretty well, I meant he held down the fort at LT...I think he's a great RT and a serviceable LT.  He was also a rookie, so I take that into account.

I guess I just don't see 4 sacks and 23 pressures in 6 games all that bad...it's not good either, but I wouldn't call him awful.
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« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2015, 05:21:55 pm »

When I said pretty well, I meant he held down the fort at LT...I think he's a great RT and a serviceable LT.  He was also a rookie, so I take that into account.

I guess I just don't see 4 sacks and 23 pressures in 6 games all that bad...it's not good either, but I wouldn't call him awful.

4 sacks and 23 pressures projects out to over 10 sacks and over 60 pressures in a season. That would have put him 2nd to last in sacks allowed and dead last in pressures allowed for all tackles that took 25% of snaps or more. That means he would have ranked 81st in sacks allowed and 82nd in pressures allowed out of 82 players.
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« Reply #67 on: May 05, 2015, 09:03:45 pm »

According to Tampa media, Jameis Winston and Kwon Alexander have launched an aggressive recruiting campaign to get him to Tampa.  As bad as the Dolphins O-Line is, Tampa's is much worse.  I think it's gonna come down to those two teams. 
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« Reply #68 on: May 05, 2015, 09:47:35 pm »

Given that Kwon Alexander hasn't even played for TB yet and Winston is from a different college, if it comes down to those two vs. Landry/Sheppard/Johnson in convincing Collins, I like Miami's chances.
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« Reply #69 on: May 05, 2015, 10:03:23 pm »

That, and Miami is the much better team on paper. He would be lined up between 2 Pro Bowlers as well with a chance to slide over to LT in 1-3 years where the big money is made.

Of all the teams mentioned, Miami really seems like the best spot for him. That could change if those cheating bastards in New England get involved, but for now it's Miami.
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« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2015, 10:28:33 pm »

NFL Network reporting he is unlikely to sign with Buffalo. Seems like Miami, SD, and N.O are the early favorites
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« Reply #71 on: May 06, 2015, 08:38:23 am »

A team that really wanted to land La'el could do a lot to sweeten the pot. It might be hard to give him the whole pool of UDFA bonus money, but guaranteeing the whole contract would be a no-brainer. Additionally, UDFA's can be extended after 2 years. They could make some solid promises on the nature of that extension offer, although how much could be in the actual contract, I don't know.
Considering the reason why he went undrafted - this COULD be dangerous if things don't turn out well...  He's a good player but let's keep things in perspective.  This is a guy that Mike Mayock said teams "wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole"
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« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2015, 08:47:09 am »

Considering the reason why he went undrafted - this COULD be dangerous if things don't turn out well...  He's a good player but let's keep things in perspective.  This is a guy that Mike Mayock said teams "wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole"

You'd only be guaranteeting $1.6 million for a potential top 15 talent. I don't see the significant danger.
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« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2015, 09:32:13 am »

I think all 32 teams made a mistake by not rolling the dice with a 7th round pick
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« Reply #74 on: May 06, 2015, 09:40:02 am »

I think all 32 teams made a mistake by not rolling the dice with a 7th round pick

Maybe, but if they had drafted him he could have refused to sign and then he could go back into the draft in 2016. It would have been a wasted pick, although to be fair, 7th round picks don't normally pan out anyway.
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