If Asian-Americans saw whites the way whites see blacks

[pondwater]

Posted to this board over the last week:

As I also like to point out, blacks also commit more crime as a group. Not only towards other races, but also towards themselves.

It's the statistical truth. And I guess for you, the truth hurts. It seems to me that if people with your skewed viewpoint focused on the issues of the black community instead of thinking that everyone is out to get you, maybe you might see progress in these areas. However, when you have clowns, thugs, and idiots rioting against white people every week or two, do you honestly expect people not to call out the hypocrisy? Such silly games people like you play. This whole thread is a great example.

"BLACK LIVES MATTER". No, how about "ALL LIVES MATTER". But then again, I guess that doesn't fit with the agenda at hand for people like you.

Have a great day

mod edit: fixed broken quoteblock

[Spider-Dan]

Spider-Dan, while I understand your points and even agree to an extent, I'll say this as a white guy: the reason why, in my opinion, why we refer to a black culture and not white culture is because we see blacks as a more unified (for lack of a better word) group of people, what with FUBU (for us by us), black power (spoken freely by anyone at any point in time, such as P Diddy stating black power at an all star game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCpBtngVdSo), the projects, ghetto, etc... While I'm more or less agreeing with what you said, there really is nothing that lumps white culture together (other than some joking around things like we love mayonnaise, or we can't jump high, etc..).

I'd say that the reason why you don't often see "white culture" mentioned by name is because whites are the majority; referring to "white culture" would almost be like referring to "American culture."  So I somewhat agree with your point.

To me, the problem is more that "black culture" is frequently used as an explanation for why black people have problems... but when white people have problems, no such explanation is offered.  And if some people are going to cite crime statistics as justification for police brutality, then by the same token, whites should also be facing the same kind of racial profiling relative to Asians.

[Spider-Dan]

"BLACK LIVES MATTER". No, how about "ALL LIVES MATTER". But then again, I guess that doesn't fit with the agenda at hand for people like you.

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[pondwater]

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[Sunstroke]

[Rich]

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Those of you that continue the discussion after this rebuttal are certifiable masochists.

[Spider-Dan]

Rich, if you need any help locating the Back button on your browser, let me know.  The technology exists to leave a thread you don't care for without clicking on Reply.

[Rich]

thug: a violent person, especially a criminal.

riot: a violent disturbance of the peace by a crowd

The word "thug" was used to describe Occupy Wall Street protestors, including one of the leaders of the movement, Danny Cline, who happens to be *gasp* white.

http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/08/danny-cline-occupy-wall-street

The Occupy Wall Street protestors were not black prosteters, in fact many if not most of them were white.

All you have to do is search on Google for Occupy Wall Street thugs and you will get a slew of articles referring to the protestors as thugs.

WTO protestors have also been referred to as thugs. I do not believe they are of any particular race.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2003/09/004521.php

So the use of the word was never an issue when it was being used against these organizations but now it is used to describe mostly black looters (you know, people who are committing illegal acts, i.e. thugs) and now it is an issue.

As for the use of the word riot, here is a New York Daily News article referring to fans rioting after the SF Giants won the World Series.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/san-francisco-giants-fans-riot-world-series-win-gallery-1.1992930

NYDN is pretty right leaning, isn't it?

Here are some more articles using the word "riot" to describe the celebration.

http://rt.com/usa/200987-san-francisco-world-series-riots/

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/10/sf_giants_fans_celebration_turns_to_rioting_after_world_series.html

I'm sure if we continued digging at these words that are supposedly racist code, we would find them used in instances that are not related to African Americans.

So please, put this guy to bed.

[Rich]

Rich, if you need any help locating the Back button on your browser, let me know.  The technology exists to leave a thread you don't care for without clicking on Reply.

Oh, my comment was based on personal experience. 

[Spider-Dan]

Welcome back to this discussion, Rich!  I guess you have not yet decided to take your ball and go home, even though you have (twice!) opined on how much of a waste of time you feel this thread is.

I'm not sure why you and Hoodie have decided to dedicate multiple paragraphs to a single-line mention (out of 10 tweets) of the word thug, nor can I determine where in this thread the term "thug" was claimed to be racist.  But congratulations on thoroughly rebutting an argument not being made here.

And I'd think that it would be clear that after posting links to four different examples of white people rioting (including news articles specifically using that word), I'm not claiming that "riot" is a racist term.  However, looking through your links (as well as the earlier examples I posted), I can find no mention of white welfare mothers or white deadbeat dads, nor do I see anyone calling for the vast majority of law-abiding whites to stand up (you know, as a race) and denounce these rioters.  Statistics about white-on-white crime also seem to be absent from said articles.  It must be nice to have some dumb people riot without it being an indictment on your culture as a whole.

That picture of a strawman was the perfect conclusion to your post, though.

[Rich]

even though you have (twice!) opined on how much of a waste of time you feel this thread is.

This is your problem in a nutshell. I never said the thread was a waste of time. I said responding to you is a waste of time, because you do exactly what you did here. Either you're not too quick on the uptake and points fly right over your head or you purposefully enjoy twisting what other people are saying. There is zero interest on your part in having a discussion, you just want to talk down to everyone else and not bother listening to other points of view.

[Sunstroke]

If Asian-Americans saw whites the way whites see blacks...there would be a bunch of white dudes dating fat Asian chicks.

[Spider-Dan]

And here is your problem in a nutshell: you protest vigorously that you never said this thread was a waste of time (a thread I created, it bears mentioning), and that you only said responding to me is a waste of time.  Yet every single post you have made to this thread is either a) a direct response to me, b) a response to the subject matter I posted in the OP, or c) complaining about me that has nothing to do with the subject matter.  And so even though you continually insist that no one should bother responding to me, you just keep doing it.  But to you, this detail is apparently unimportant.

Again, no one is forcing you to read this thread or reply to it.  If you think it's a waste of time to reply to me, then... don't?  But if you are going to take the time to reply, it would be nice if you spent less time complaining about me being mean and more time addressing the topic at hand.  Because so far, you haven't been addressing any of the real points:

- that there's a vast gulf between how black rioters are treated and how white rioters are treated, even when the white rioters are "destroying their own communities" over total nonsense like the outcome of a football game
- that welfare mothers, deadbeat dads, and other elements of "black culture" are frequently cited in mainstream media as a cause of the problems blacks face, but almost never cited as a cause of the same problems when whites face them
- that black people are expected, as a race, to specifically take responsibility for condemning lawbreakers, while whites are never asked to do the same

But rather than counter those points, you're citing dictionary definitions of the word "thug" and insisting that white people are also capable of rioting (as if anyone was arguing to the contrary) while posting unintentionally ironic pictures of strawmen.

It would be easier to accept your complaints about process as valid if you weren't making astoundingly poor attempts to address the subject.  Instead, it just looks like you're whining about me personally as a smokescreen because you don't have an actual counterargument to the points I'm making.  (see: "you're taking me out of context!")

[pondwater]

If Asian-Americans saw whites the way whites see blacks...there would be a bunch of white dudes dating fat Asian chicks.

They don't say fat anymore. I'm not sure why, but "thick" is the new fat for some reason, hahahaha