Tannehill signs Extension through 2020

[Spider-Dan]

You can watch a player over their career and get a feel for if they are a good QB or not.  I like stats as much as the next guy but it doesn't always tell the story, as you mentioned.

How many times have Flacco or Dalton received votes for NFL MVP?  Because Rivers and Romo have both received votes.

That, to me, is the difference.  Rivers and Romo are QBs that can play up to an MVP level for stretches.  Dalton and Flacco are not.

[Rich]

You can watch a player over their career and get a feel for if they are a good QB or not.  I like stats as much as the next guy but it doesn't always tell the story, as you mentioned.  Example, swap Joe Flacco and Andy Dalton's teams and which one do YOU think is more successful?  Their numbers are largely circumstantial based on their surroundings, even though they are the same players.

Watching a player and getting a feel is subjective. Stats are objective.

[MikeO]

How many times have Flacco or Dalton received votes for NFL MVP?  Because Rivers and Romo have both received votes.

That, to me, is the difference.  Rivers and Romo are QBs that can play up to an MVP level for stretches.  Dalton and Flacco are not.

Rivers and Romo are both Top 10 NFL QB's. Rivers has carried his team in playoff games, especially when LT was riding the pine injured and not playing. Rivers played on one leg in an AFC Championship game and showed guts, heart, and had his team almost win it!  Romo's numbers can't be overlooked. All jokes aside about him, he is a legit talent and a Top NFL QB in this league. Both are better than Flacco and Dalton.

[masterfins]

Rivers and Romo are both Top 10 NFL QB's.

I'd love to see your Top 10 QB list.  In the Russell Wilson thread you were quick to hammer Brian over his listing all 32 teams, but too busy to make one yourself.  Perhaps you have time for 10, because I don't see these guys as Top 10 material, Top 20 sure, but not Top 10.

[Spider-Dan]

I'll give you mine (separated by tier).

Rodgers
Brady
Brees
Peyton

Luck
Rivers
Romo
Wilson
Big Ben

Newton
(Ryan, Stafford, Eli)

edit: slight changes near the bottom.

[MikeO]

I'd love to see your Top 10 QB list.  In the Russell Wilson thread you were quick to hammer Brian over his listing all 32 teams, but too busy to make one yourself.  Perhaps you have time for 10, because I don't see these guys as Top 10 material, Top 20 sure, but not Top 10.

I didn't do it because a few people derailed the thread and stopped talking about football. Maybe if this thread stays on topic I will do one. But if you don't think Rivers and Romo are Top 10....I don't know what scrubs you have above them

[masterfins]

I didn't do it because a few people derailed the thread and stopped talking about football. Maybe if this thread stays on topic I will do one. But if you don't think Rivers and Romo are Top 10....I don't know what scrubs you have above them

Rivers is close to Top 10, maybe 12, Romo not so much.  I don't think the 22+ QB's outside the Top 10 are all scrubs.

[Spider-Dan]

I named 11 starting QBs (excluding Romo and Rivers).  So you're basically saying you have ALL of those players ahead of both of them, plus a few more (in Romo's case)?
Sorry man, that's crazy talk.

[Tenshot13]

I didn't do it because a few people derailed the thread and stopped talking about football. Maybe if this thread stays on topic I will do one. But if you don't think Rivers and Romo are Top 10....I don't know what scrubs you have above them

I'll make one post and one post only about this so this thread isn't completely derailed...

Really dude?  It had nothing to do with your rude, insulting, mocking response to Brian's post that got the whole thing off topic?  Okay bud, you keep living in that fantasy world where you're the victim for no reason other than we're a bunch of meanies.

[Tenshot13]

I named 11 starting QBs (excluding Romo and Rivers).  So you're basically saying you have ALL of those players ahead of both of them, plus a few more (in Romo's case)?
Sorry man, that's crazy talk.

Other than some very minor ranking changes (I think Romo is better than Rivers), I'm pretty much in agreement with you. I think Romo is majorly unappreciated in this thread. 

[MikeO]

I'll make one post and one post only about this so this thread isn't completely derailed...

Really dude?  It had nothing to do with your rude, insulting, mocking response to Brian's post that got the whole thing off topic?  Okay bud, you keep living in that fantasy world where you're the victim for no reason other than we're a bunch of meanies.

again, this thread is derailed! Exactly why I didnt post a list last time 

[fyo]

Romo is elite. It's ridiculous that a lot of people base their opinions of him on one or two plays.

[Pappy13]

Romo is elite. It's ridiculous that a lot of people base their opinions of him on one or two plays.

Romo is elite, but he still throws at least 1 or 2 passes EVERY game that you just scratch your head and wonder what the hell he was thinking. That is what prevents him from being put on the same level with the greatest in the game.

[BuccaneerBrad]

Romo is elite. It's ridiculous that a lot of people base their opinions of him on one or two plays.

The only current QB's I can say are truly elite are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers.

Romo is in that second tier along with Ben Rothlisberger, Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan and Russell Wilson. 

[Sunstroke]

The only current QB's I can say are truly elite are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers.

Romo is in that second tier along with Ben Rothlisberger, Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan and Russell Wilson. 

Have to assume that leaving Andrew Luck out of that first group was an unintended slip?

If leaving him out of both groups was intended, my head-scratching would be loud enough to hear over the internet...