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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2015, 11:41:32 am »

You can't say they ignored the problem last year when they signed their 2 starting tackles who by the way are not bad, so they only ignored 1 year in a row. I think Miami is hoping that Pouncey will be back to his pre-2014 self at center and with the center and tackle position starters in good shape could get away with poor to mediocre guard play. I'm sure they would have loved to improve their guard play as well, but I'm not convinced that the offensive line was the biggest issue heading into 2015 and you can't do everything. The defensive line had to be improved and Suh was kinda a big investment. Revamping their WR core didn't hurt either. C'mon MikeO give 'em a break. They are trying to fix it.

I agree with you 100% on this Pappy.
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2015, 02:21:45 pm »

What do you consider "doing something" about the problem?

In the last 5 years, Miami has spent 2 first-round, 1 second-round, and 2 third-round picks on the OL.  Their biggest free-agent signing last year was a Pro Bowl tackle. 

The two 3rd round picks have done nothing in this league, can't give them credit for swings and misses. Dallas Thomas sucks and Turner couldn't crack the lineup last year even when all the guards were crappy and getting hurt. Line was destroyed with injuries and Turner couldn't even get some snaps at all.  After the 2013 season Miami needed 4 new starting o-linemen. Only Pouncey was staying. They added Albert and James...ok fine, GREAT MOVES! Kudos!!   If Pouncey doesn't get hurt last spring/summer they don't sign Satelle....what were the guards gonna look like last year with no Satelle?  Signing Colledge who was on his last legs and was only good for a month or so last year before falling apart, that was a disaster! But, ok fine. Rome wasn't built in a day. I mean they had a ton of money to use at the end of the 2014 free agency period and draft, but ok. Fine adding Albert and James was enough for that offseason, let's make it a 2 year process. I'm down with that.

Then in 2014 the o-line struggles again, and they did what this offseason? They are going into the season depending on Dallas Thomas finally being good? Sign a marginal back-up in Walton! Hope Turner becomes competent overnight?  They ignored the o-line this offseason. 

Now if Mathis falls into their lap for .50 on the dollar then great (I think the odds are slim and none of that happening) and ignore everything I just wrote. But aside from signing Mathis this o-line is still a HUGE question mark and a mess going into this year, especially with Albert now coming off major knee surgery.  So yes they haven't done enough to improve the o-line and needed to do more!
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2015, 03:51:56 pm »

If your complaint is that "they aren't doing anything," then you absolutely must give them credit for "swings and misses."  Should we spend a first-rounder on the OL every year until we get it right?

Speaking of Satele, why haven't the Dolphins signed him as a backup?
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2015, 03:56:21 pm »

why hasn't anyone?
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2015, 03:58:57 pm »

If your complaint is that "they aren't doing anything," then you absolutely must give them credit for "swings and misses." 
Where did you get that from? My statement was "it's another year of not fully addressing the O-line" and that is what Mike was commenting on. Buying milk when you need milk and cereal doesn't feed anyone ... especially when much of the milk you keep buying is spoiled.
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2015, 04:13:37 pm »

If your complaint is that "they aren't doing anything," then you absolutely must give them credit for "swings and misses."  Should we spend a first-rounder on the OL every year until we get it right?

Speaking of Satele, why haven't the Dolphins signed him as a backup?

They signed JD Walton instead of Satelle. Same position, same role. Back-up center who can play some guard.. Walton is younger 

And when you have 4 glaring holes on your starting o-line and NO depth whatsoever after the 2013 season.. and you sign Albert and James...great. Job isn't done though. Far from it. They should have used some money to sign a vet guard (Colledge doesn't count he was on his last legs literally) who has something in the tank. THEN, take some mid-round swings on young guards in the draft and hope one hits. The way the Fins handled this has been bad.  I mean they can still sign Mathis and this all goes away over night...but I don't see that. Hope I am wrong and they make a push for him
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2015, 05:06:47 pm »

Where did you get that from? My statement was "it's another year of not fully addressing the O-line" and that is what Mike was commenting on.
Is the complaint that the front office isn't trying hard enough, or that their attempts aren't panning out?  They are two very different positions; the first is effort, while the second is competence.

I think the Dolphins have expended sufficient resources trying to fix the OL, and it is appropriate for them to direct resources to other areas of need for a while.  The 2014 OL (when healthy) was a significant improvement from 2013, and this team has too many other needs to be worried about quality depth in the OL; if Albert/James/Pouncey go down for a large stretch then the season is done, and that's just the way it is.  If Grimes or Jenkins or Reshad go down then we're in the same situation anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2015, 08:52:22 am »

Good News for the Fins o-line is Branden Albert will not start training camp (which opens today) on PUP.
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2015, 09:01:51 am »

Good News for the Fins o-line is Branden Albert will not start training camp (which opens today) on PUP.
I think most off us saw this coming. Moving our RT to the left will hinder him but at least we have a center and a high paid QB. Hopefully our QB will survive until we get a front office that understands how the game is played.
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2015, 09:27:14 am »

I think most off us saw this coming. Moving our RT to the left will hinder him but at least we have a center and a high paid QB. Hopefully our QB will survive until we get a front office that understands how the game is played.

As of last week (per reports) the thought was Albert would start training camp on PUP, so this is good news he will be able to "go", even on a limited basis, today when camp opens
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2015, 10:09:58 am »

As of last week (per reports) the thought was Albert would start training camp on PUP, so this is good news he will be able to "go", even on a limited basis, today when camp opens
Sorry ... I read that completely wrong ... LOL. I saw it as sarcasm  and put in a comma.

Good News for the Fins o-line is Branden Albert will not start training camp (which opens today)

 (insert comma here as to say he will start on the PUP) on PUP
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