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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2015, 07:11:13 pm »

I make my prediction based on what I think will happen.  Not based on what I want to happen. 

Are you admitting your prediction is artificially high because you WANT the Dolphins to go 12-4, vs realistically believing that is what they will accomplish?
I think I stated as such in the past before making my prediction. My prediction THIS year is genuine and realistic.

And I was giving you credit for being unbiased.
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« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2015, 10:19:57 am »

Also something to remember when talking about this defense and great d-line....Vernon/Wake are "smaller" DE's and struggle vs the run. And no team with a brain is gonna run up the middle on Suh cause it won't work and he will be a brick wall. Teams are gonna wide and run at OV and Wake a lot....a real lot. If those 2 don't improve in that aspect of their games vs the run.....it will be problematic at times.
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« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2015, 11:12:00 am »

Sorry to rain on the parade here - -

What's different from last year to this year?  You really think Ndomukong Suh makes the Dolphins from 8-8 disappointments to Super Bowl contenders?  Aside from Suh -

Two leading WR's gone, replaced with a rookie and a 3rd year kid
Same QB
Same RB, mostly
patchwork o-line - granted Albert will be back...
same LB's
same secondary, minus a feisty veteran who I thought was more of a contributor than most, an injured FS, and a good nickel corner

So who's making this vast difference?  Bryce McCain?  Jay Ajayi?  Kenny Stills?

Sorry guys, you know I'm usually the optimist, but I don't understand where this optimism comes from...

I echo this sentiment. Adding to it, we still have Philbin calling timeouts for the other team.

8-8
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« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2015, 05:09:30 pm »

Don't need pro bowlers at every position but need competent players who are adequate. You can get by without a top end TE, RB and a lackluster Safety (not counting punters and kickers here either.) RB is the least important position on a team these days lets be honest. I think CB is an overrated position these days, with all the rule changes CB's can't do anything but chase guys down and tackle for the most part. Still has some importance but not like it once did.

The lines (both sides) are too important. Without quality DT's teams run down your throat and you are toast (look at Miami end of last year) and Center is the same (if pressure is up the middle to your QB, good night, can't win)

I think RB is important.  Not nearly as much as it was 10 years ago, but still can be a game changer for teams.  You kind of contradicted yourself by saying its the least important position followed by your statement... "Without quality DT's teams run down your throat and you are toast". This is a weakness exposed by RB's around the league.  Imo, the RB position should be given a little more credit.
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« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2015, 06:49:55 pm »

I think RB is important.  Not nearly as much as it was 10 years ago, but still can be a game changer for teams.  You kind of contradicted yourself by saying its the least important position followed by your statement... "Without quality DT's teams run down your throat and you are toast". This is a weakness exposed by RB's around the league.  Imo, the RB position should be given a little more credit.
Didn't contridcit myself at all. a) You can find quality RB's anywhere they aren't tough to find. It can be a position that isn't important where you can find good players at easily. b) without good DT's any RB can run it down your throat  Roll Eyes

Pretty simple to understand honestly
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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2015, 12:58:25 pm »

I think RB is important.  Not nearly as much as it was 10 years ago, but still can be a game changer for teams.  You kind of contradicted yourself by saying its the least important position followed by your statement... "Without quality DT's teams run down your throat and you are toast". This is a weakness exposed by RB's around the league.  Imo, the RB position should be given a little more credit.

I agree with you Cdogg.  I think quality RB's do still play a vital role, and they are not as easy to find as people like to say.  Without a running game the defense can just tee off on the QB if they know he is going to throw all the time.  Late in the game when you need to run out the clock to preserve a victory you need that guy that will get you a first down.  Inside the five you need that guy that will get in the endzone.  Every year people bitch about those two things.
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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2015, 01:56:07 pm »

I think quality RB's do still play a vital role, and they are not as easy to find as people like to say.  Without a running game the defense can just tee off on the QB

I agree with the latter but not the former.  A running game is important, a top tier running back is not. 

The running game is a function of two things: the o-line and the back. 

I would rather have an o-line that can create holes that any scrub could run through and a squad of mid-grade running backs than a top tier running back with a mid-grade o-line.
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« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2015, 02:32:31 pm »

I agree with the latter but not the former.  A running game is important, a top tier running back is not. 


Yep! And you can have a good running game without a top tier RB and you can have a running game with RB's you find late in the draft or other teams scraps they get rid of.
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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2015, 11:32:50 am »

I agree with the latter but not the former.  A running game is important, a top tier running back is not. 

The running game is a function of two things: the o-line and the back. 

I would rather have an o-line that can create holes that any scrub could run through and a squad of mid-grade running backs than a top tier running back with a mid-grade o-line.

Preferably I would like to have an elite O-line with a mid-grade running back(s); but...it takes five guys to form an elite O-line vs. one elite RB.
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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2015, 11:34:57 am »

...and you can have a running game with RB's you find late in the draft or other teams scraps they get rid of.

That must be why Marino has all those SB rings, because of all the scrap RB's Miami had to go along with the All-Star O-Line and Superb passing & Receivers.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2015, 11:38:51 am »

That must be why Marino has all those SB rings, because of all the scrap RB's Miami had to go along with the All-Star O-Line and Superb passing & Receivers.   Roll Eyes

Yeah because the rules haven't changed since the 80's and 90's and the game hasn't totally changed in regards to passing the football and how defenses can hit/attack defenders. Horrible analogy on your part.
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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2015, 12:39:11 pm »

I'm more positive about this year's team than I have been in a long time.  But the lack of depth at some key positions scares me big time.  I'm going to predict 10 - 6. 
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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2015, 01:04:09 pm »

Tannehill throws for nearly 5000 yards, but in the end, it doesn't matter:

9 - 7, no playoff berth.
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« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2015, 03:55:36 pm »

10 - 6 with a wildcard birth. I think the team has improved but they are still young and raw. I think they are a couple of years away from being a real contender but I do like the direction they appear to be headed!!!!!
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« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2015, 08:39:23 pm »

9-7, followed by a first round wildcard loss
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