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« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2015, 10:26:26 am »

Rizzi has come up on several people's lists so MikeO isn't alone in thinking he'd make our best choice. I'm told he is the Alpha male of the coaching staff.
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« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2015, 10:32:47 am »

In many ways it makes sense to have the assistant coach be a position coach or other special assistant rather than the OC or DC.

Let say the HC has a heart attack 2 hours before kickoff.  Which would be the easier transition.

1) TE coach fills in for HC.   WR coach takes care of both the TE and WR.

2) OC fills in for HC. QB coach fills in for OC. WR coach takes care of both QB and WR. 

I would say #2 would be less disruptive.   Plus a TE coach would have more time (because of less responsibility) to actually have some time to know what is going on with the the overall team and could be better prepared to be the backup. 
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« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2015, 11:07:23 am »

Great. I still felt the need to respond.
Then I'll just repost the same response I already gave:

John Harbaugh did not go from ST coach to interim head coach for the team he was ST coaching, which is what you are talking about.

Rizzi can certainly become the head coach of another team.  And he could become the HC of the Dolphins in the offseason.  But you cannot elevate a ST coach over the OC and DC.  It's arguably even worse than what Ross did to Sparano.

I'm not sure why you would "feel the need to respond" with a position that's already been asked and answered, but there you go.

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« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2015, 11:08:45 am »

Let say the HC has a heart attack 2 hours before kickoff.  Which would be the easier transition.

1) TE coach fills in for HC.   WR coach takes care of both the TE and WR.

2) OC fills in for HC. QB coach fills in for OC. WR coach takes care of both QB and WR. 

I would say #2 would be less disruptive.
...unless you have the OC coach the team and still call the plays, which many head coaches can and have done anyway.
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« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2015, 11:09:51 am »

Then I'll just repost the same response I already gave:

I'm not sure why you would "feel the need to respond" with a position that's already been asked and answered, but there you go.



Because I did. Why do you feel the need to respond to the fact that I felt the need to respond by repeating what you already said?
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« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2015, 11:13:02 am »

Rizzi has come up on several people's lists so MikeO isn't alone in thinking he'd make our best choice. I'm told he is the Alpha male of the coaching staff.

He certainly seems to show the most passion on that sideline. And since we have a dispassionate team taking on the personality of a dispassionate coach, bringing in the opposite type personality would make the most sense to me.

At this point, we know where we are going with Philbin. Time to try something different and hope it works versus sticking with the same thing that always fails.
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« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2015, 11:21:01 am »

Because I did. Why do you feel the need to respond to the fact that I felt the need to respond by repeating what you already said?
Because it was pretty obvious that you simply stopped reading the thread and posted your redundant reply, then tried to dismiss Phishfan when he informed you that your objection had already been addressed.  What other reason is there to repeat something that someone else has already said?

Yes, Harbaugh was the ST coach for a different team before he became head coach of the Ravens.  Everyone who read the thread already knew that.  Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2015, 11:22:16 am »

Because it was pretty obvious that you simply stopped reading the thread and posted your redundant reply, then tried to dismiss Phishfan when he informed you that your objection had already been addressed.

What other reason is there to repeat something that someone else has already said?

I was aware that you had already replied before I posted. I didn't really care that you had already replied. Sorry for being redundant, but I don't care if I was.
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« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2015, 11:45:58 am »

I was aware that you had already replied before I posted. I didn't really care that you had already replied. Sorry for being redundant, but I don't care if I was.
Yes, but were you aware that he was aware of your awareness of being aware DeMarcus Ware's warehouse of slightly weathered weared weather coat wears.

And one of you is a mod?

Seriously guys, cut the petty shit. 
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« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2015, 12:06:35 pm »

Someone let me know when 6th grade is over.
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« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2015, 01:47:02 pm »



Yes, Harbaugh was the ST coach for a different team before he became head coach of the Ravens.  Everyone who read the thread already knew that.  Thanks for the info.

Spider it seems to be your point that it would be unprecedented to promote someone other than the OC, DC or previously named AHC to interim HC midseason.

Is that your point?

If so Tony Sparano. 
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« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2015, 02:11:05 pm »

I believe Sparano was the only other person on that team with NFL HC experience, but point taken.
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« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2015, 02:22:27 pm »

Sparano also had the title of Assistant Head Coach before being the interim Head Coach.
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« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2015, 02:21:04 pm »

Phishfan has it exactly right.

If there is an Assistant Head Coach on the team, and the Head Coach is gone for any reason (fired, medical leave, whatever) the Assistant Head Coach should take over.  If there is no Assistant Head Coach, then that responsibility should go to the Offensive Coordinator or Defensive Coordinator.

Looks like it went to the TE coach rather than the either coordinator. 
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« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2015, 02:48:24 pm »

You can't make the special teams coach the HC.  If you have that little confidence in your OC/DC, why even bother firing Philbin in the first place?  Might as well just ride out the season.

Your right, it went to the TIGHT ENDS coach. They skipped all 3 coordinators.

Just wanna point that out
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