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MikeO
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2015, 08:04:04 pm »

Bill Cowher quit.
Tony Dungy quit.
I doubt either one would have trouble finding work as a head coach.


They didn't quit they retired  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2015, 08:34:05 pm »

Bill Cowher quit.
Tony Dungy quit.
I doubt either one would have trouble finding work as a head coach.
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Marrone can't find work because he overestimated his value; he apparently thought he did a great job in Buffalo, when in reality his performance was Just Good Enough Not To Get Fired (Yet).

mid season?
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2015, 12:40:44 am »

Marrone didn't quit mid season.  He had the option to end his contract if the team was sold, and he took it.

MikeO, NFL coaches only "retire" until a) they feel like coaching again or b) nobody wants them any more because they are too old.  In any case, both Bill Parcells (NE) and Bill Belichick (NYJ) straight up quit, and they had no problem finding another coaching job.
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2015, 06:36:01 am »

Marrone didn't quit mid season.  He had the option to end his contract if the team was sold, and he took it.

MikeO, NFL coaches only "retire" until a) they feel like coaching again or b) nobody wants them any more because they are too old.  In any case, both Bill Parcells (NE) and Bill Belichick (NYJ) straight up quit, and they had no problem finding another coaching job.

How did Parcells and Belichick get brought up? You mentioned Cowher and Dungy who both RETIRED...they didn't quit. They retired cause they both finally won a Super Bowl and they were old and accomplished everything they ever wanted to accomplish. That's the stupidest analogy you have ever made on this website.

Parcells and Belichick have fingers filled with super bowl rings. To think Lazor and Coyle (and throw in Marrone) are on their level and can get away what those 2 get away with is FOOLISH!!! Not to mention advocating quitting their job 1 month into the season!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Belichick and Parcells NEVER quit in the middle of the season , they left when the season was over....a little different! And comparing super bowl winning coaches to 2 career assistants who aren't even any good is real stretch!

You are smarter than this Spider! Do you just want to argue for the sake of arguing cause you can't honestly believe what you are typing! It's beyond silly
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2015, 08:44:00 am »

Do you just want to argue for the sake of arguing cause you can't honestly believe what you are typing! It's beyond silly

Absolutely correct, sir.
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2015, 11:22:23 am »

You mentioned Cowher and Dungy who both RETIRED...they didn't quit. [...]
Parcells and Belichick have fingers filled with super bowl rings.
If you're a desirable head coach, you can quit (or "retire" and come back, as Parcells has done repeatedly) and find a job.  Quitting on the Jets didn't seem to pose a problem for Belichick who, at the time, had only a failed stint in Cleveland on his head coaching resume.

The problem is not "being a quitter."  The problem is that Marrone is not a desirable head coach.  To point as Marrone (as you did) as an example of anything but "don't leave one job unless you're good enough to get a better one" is dumb.  That's the reason why Lazor and Coyle won't quit: because they aren't good enough to get better jobs, not because of some silliness about quitting on the job.
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2015, 11:29:15 am »

If you're a desirable head coach, you can quit (or "retire" and come back, as Parcells has done repeatedly) and find a job.  Quitting on the Jets didn't seem to pose a problem for Belichick who, at the time, had only a failed stint in Cleveland on his head coaching resume.

The problem is not "being a quitter."  The problem is that Marrone is not a desirable head coach.  To point as Marrone (as you did) as an example of anything but "don't leave one job unless you're good enough to get a better one" is dumb.  That's the reason why Lazor and Coyle won't quit: because they aren't good enough to get better jobs, not because of some silliness about quitting on the job.


Your making zero sense. I'm sorry Spider I like ya but you are making zero sense. You claimed Cowher and Dungy quit...they didn't. Now your bring up Parcells, who quit after the season and putting him on the same level as Coyle and Lazor which is silly. And the Belichick situation is so unique and such a one time thing where a coach had 2 job offers, took one then 24 hours later backed out and took the other is just strange and hasn't happened before or since, so to compare it to anything in this debate is silly. You are really stretching. But whatever, believe what you want. Done with this silly conversation
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2015, 02:05:28 pm »

Is this clown fired yet?
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2015, 02:07:27 pm »

Is this clown fired yet?

Can't find a replacement for him. They reached out to Jim Schwartz and he said no. With that leaking though they HAVE to fire Coyle now anyway. So he will be gone soon
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2015, 02:15:46 pm »

Can't find a replacement for him. They reached out to Jim Schwartz and he said no. With that leaking though they HAVE to fire Coyle now anyway. So he will be gone soon

Mark Duffner is sitting in Davie waiting to get promoted.
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2015, 02:19:01 pm »

Yeah, if there is any validity to the story about them offering the gig to Schwartz and it has been leaked publicly, then keeping Coyle is no longer an option.  You can't keep the guy after it has been made known that you offered his job to someone else. 
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2015, 02:20:51 pm »

Yeah, if there is any validity to the story about them offering the gig to Schwartz and it has been leaked publicly, then keeping Coyle is no longer an option.  You can't keep the guy after it has been made known that you offered his job to someone else. 
like the time we did that to Sparano?
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2015, 02:29:56 pm »

Spider you are bringing up irrelevant examples.  Contention if a coach quits midseason he will have troube ever getting another job.

your counter examples of bb and bp makes no sense cause 1 it was the end of the season 2. They already had jobs lined up when they quit ---document fact with bp; and pretty obvious with bb
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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2015, 02:44:52 pm »

like the time we did that to Sparano?

Exactly.  That was a terrible situation all around.  If I remember correctly, one of the prospective coaches (was it Cowher?) supposedly even said that he didn't want to talk to Ross and crew while they had a coach in place. 
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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2015, 03:00:27 pm »

The only people who will have trouble getting another job, based on how they left the last one, are people who would have trouble getting another job no matter what.  I'll leave it at that.

And now with this Schwartz/Coyle stuff, we are seeing classic Stephen Ross in action: float names for replacements before you fire the incumbent.  Miami will now be to desirable NFL coaches what Seattle is to NBA franchises: a bargaining chip to be used for leverage in real negotiations, but never a legitimate destination.
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