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Pennington never had more than 500 attempts in a season. So yes. Seeing how Tannehill is in a pass happy offense of course he is going to have more yards in a season. Are you really that dense to argue that Tannehill is a better qb than Pennington was?  And Landry is not good. Catching 100 2 yard passes doesn't make him good. His yard per target is abysmal.

Regarding Landry, wide receivers have 3 goals to hit each season:

A.  100 catches in a year.  CHECK
B.  1,000 yards in a season.  CHECK
C.  Double digit TDs in a season.  Didn't hit that one, but there are 8 WRs in the league that did.  Pretty limited company.

So in conclusion, you don't know anything about football.  The end.

[EKnight]

Not a single member of this Miami roster will be an all-pro this season. Miami didn't have any all-pros on their O-line last year either...or the year before. Maybe what you meant was that Miami has a couple of offensive linemen who used to be considered all pro caliber.

They certainly aren't any more.

Why does this seem to happen disproportionately for Miami? This seems to be the place for players' careers to go to die. Dansby, Burnett, Ellerbe, Wallace, Suh, Albert, all of them have been far less than advertised once they arrived. The only player they've brought in over the past 5 years who continued to be as good or better than when he arrived- Marshall- they traded away.

[Sunstroke]

Why does this seem to happen disproportionately for Miami? This seems to be the place for players' careers to go to die. Dansby, Burnett, Ellerbe, Wallace, Suh, Albert, all of them have been far less than advertised once they arrived. The only player they've brought in over the past 5 years who continued to be as good or better than when he arrived- Marshall- they traded away.

I imagine the reasons vary as much as the individual players. Some have just gotten older, and we are paying for the production they provided as younger players. Some are players who were very productive in other systems, but not in the systems that Miami tried to shoehorn them into when they arrived. Some just flat-out suck, and we're left scratching our heads over why Miami signed them in the first place.

[CF DolFan]

Tannehill has a running game...and the running game needs a better offensive line.

I agree with that as well as needing our players to be coached up. That's exactly why I want Josh McDaniel. I can't think of a better example of a team that isn't afraid to change things up to fit each bit of adversity they face.  With that said you also need to draft and and sign people who the coach can work with. it doesn't matter what QB Tannebaum likes if the coach doesn't think they can work things out with them. We have drafted projects for years and they not panned out. We trade away picks so that we can select one average guy and another bust. We need to just go after people we know will pan out as we haven't had a decent person picking since JJ left.

[Run Ricky Run]

Regarding Landry, wide receivers have 3 goals to hit each season:

A.  100 catches in a year.  CHECK
B.  1,000 yards in a season.  CHECK
C.  Double digit TDs in a season.  Didn't hit that one, but there are 8 WRs in the league that did.  Pretty limited company.

So in conclusion, you don't know anything about football.  The end.

Having only 1000 yds on 100+ catches is not good and no receiver would shoot for that. He is 99th in the nfl in yards per reception which is not good.

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Having only 1000 yds on 100+ catches is not good and no receiver would shoot for that. He is 99th in the nfl in yards per reception which is not good.

So he runs short routes successfully that he is told to run by the coaching staff and that makes him a bad player?

And before you say, "It's because he can't run deeper routes", see his amazing 1 handed catch from yesterday's game.

...but by all means, keep digging your hole.

[dolfan13]

tannehil is the qb for the foreseeable future, no point arguing that... why they rushed to get him locked up into a contract is another topic for another thread.

what you see is what you get with tannehill, it aint changing with a resurrection of bill walsh to coach this team. defenses know that you just keep everything underneath, let tanny rack up his 40 passes for 350 yards, and you are beating the dolphins. unfortunately that is what tannehill does well.

for the fins to be successful, the entire offensive strategy needs to change. i hate the term, but tanny needs to be put in a system where he is just a game manager, nothing more, nothing less. build around a power rushing team, with an elite running back and defense to match. something that looks more like the chiefs, or gulp, the jets.

if the fins go into this rebuild thinking they want to continue to have tanny the focal point of the offense with 35 - 40 passes a game, they are doomed.

[EKnight]

SI.com actually ran a report recently indicating that QB is one of the positions that will be evaluated in the offseason before the draft. Yes, I know that EVERY position is evaluated in the offseason, but two sources within the organization made it a point to state that they were evaluating off-season options at the position.

[masterfins]

I imagine the reasons vary as much as the individual players. Some have just gotten older, and we are paying for the production they provided as younger players. Some are players who were very productive in other systems, but not in the systems that Miami tried to shoehorn them into when they arrived. Some just flat-out suck, and we're left scratching our heads over why Miami signed them in the first place.

I would agree with all of this and add that poor evaluation by the front office in bringing in certain players, as well as poor coaching.

[dolphins4life]

Gotta put this out there.

Look how much better Marshall was this season than he was with Miami. 

[Spider-Dan]

Not a single member of this Miami roster will be an all-pro this season. Miami didn't have any all-pros on their O-line last year either...or the year before. Maybe what you meant was that Miami has a couple of offensive linemen who used to be considered all pro caliber.

I think he meant Pro Bowl, not All-Pro.

[bsmooth]

Stats are in.
Tannehill tied for first for most sacked this year.
This means in his first four seasons, he has finished 8th, 3rd, and 1st twice for most sacked QB.

[Phishfan]

Stats are in.
Tannehill tied for first for most sacked this year.
This means in his first four seasons, he has finished 8th, 3rd, and 1st twice for most sacked QB.

I'm not sure where your stats came from but according to NFL.com Bortles was sacked 51 times to lead the league. Rodgers came in second with 46 and then Tannehill tied with Smith & Wilson at 45 to finish third.

[CF DolFan]

I'm not sure where your stats came from but according to NFL.com Bortles was sacked 51 times to lead the league. Rodgers came in second with 46 and then Tannehill tied with Smith & Wilson at 45 to finish third.

One thing about it ... none of them have offensive lines. You can also add Indy to that mix. There is obviously a lack of quality offensive linemen these days. If things don't change you will see a rule change or two to help them.

[Rich]

One thing about it ... none of them have offensive lines. You can also add Indy to that mix. There is obviously a lack of quality offensive linemen these days. If things don't change you will see a rule change or two to help them.

Might have something to do with the lack of contact in practice these days.