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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2015, 08:29:52 am »

Is there anyone who is worried about the Panthers going 19-0?  The question is serious, but the idea is laughable to me.

If they manage to get to 16-0, I'm certain they won't even get to 18-1; they'll lose before they get to the Super Bowl.

Why would we worry about them going 19-0.  As I said earlier, I am rooting for them to do it so the Patriots won't win the Superbowl.
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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2015, 12:19:19 pm »

Why would we worry about them going 19-0.  As I said earlier, I am rooting for them to do it so the Patriots won't win the Superbowl.

Who cares about the Patriots?  Whether they win or not, I don't care -- they're already dominant in the sport and a dynasty of quality for 2 decades. 

But the undefeated season is something that is timeless, so long as we're the only ones.  I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have the Pats win the Super Bowl than for Carolina to go undefeated.
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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2015, 02:45:55 pm »

I think AZ and Seattle will give the Panthers trouble in the playoffs. Not saying the Panthers can't or won't win but I think both of those teams can beat the Panthers. AZ has a top 5 Offense and Defense as well!!!!!
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2015, 03:57:45 pm »

Eh... Not worried as much about Seattle. They can't keep running backs healthy, and I don't care how good Wilson is. If Romo, Brees, and Luck didn't put up numbers on Norman, Wilson isn't going to either. And he sure isn't going to get any cute runs past Kuechly, Davis, and Shaq.

Now Arizona- they scare me. Whole different story with that team.
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2015, 04:14:01 pm »

There are a bunch of teams in the NFC that could beat Carolina before or during the playoffs, so I'm not too worried about it.  GB, Seattle, Arizona...any of those can be pretty scary.
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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2015, 06:12:20 pm »

Who cares about the Patriots?  Whether they win or not, I don't care -- they're already dominant in the sport and a dynasty of quality for 2 decades. 

But the undefeated season is something that is timeless, so long as we're the only ones.  I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have the Pats win the Super Bowl than for Carolina to go undefeated.

When you deal with their fans on a regular basis, you root against them.
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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2015, 08:07:10 pm »

When you deal with their fans on a regular basis, you root against them.
As stated earlier, your obsession borders on the extreme. This is a Dolphins board so the Patriots can be a topic of conversation but they have no place being the basis of our conversation

Couple that with the fact that YOU started a Panthers thread and put the Patriots in your very first post and I hope you see the issue.
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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2015, 08:59:55 pm »

Couple that with the fact that YOU started a Panthers thread and put the Patriots in your very first post and I hope you see the issue.

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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2015, 11:08:27 pm »

.  I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have the Pats win the Super Bowl than for Carolina to go undefeated.

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« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2015, 11:33:53 pm »

Who cares about the Patriots?  Whether they win or not, I don't care -- they're already dominant in the sport and a dynasty of quality for 2 decades. 

But the undefeated season is something that is timeless, so long as we're the only ones.  I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have the Pats win the Super Bowl than for Carolina to go undefeated.

I wouldn't.

I felt differently when the Colts were threatening to run the table in 2009.  I remember rooting for the Saints in the Superbowl because if the Colts had won that game, everybody would be mentioning them in the same breath as the 1972 Dolphins.

But now I feel differently about it.  Even if the Panthers run the table, at least for another year the 2007 Patriots will always remain the biggest choke job in sports history.

I just don't want to listen to Patriots fans celebrate yet another Super Bowl victory that they win because their opponent decided to literally hand the game to them. 

Plus, Ted Ginn Jr. is on the Panthers.  He got a bad rap in Miami, but every team he has played for since has done well.  Since Miami dumped him, they have gone down the sewer.
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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2015, 01:07:02 am »

I felt differently when the Colts were threatening to run the table in 2009.  I remember rooting for the Saints in the Superbowl because if the Colts had won that game, everybody would be mentioning them in the same breath as the 1972 Dolphins.
Why would anyone be mentioning the 14-2 2009 Colts in the same breath as the 1972 Dolphins?

Furthermore, you don't seem to understand that if Carolina were to go undefeated and win the Super Bowl, everyone would be mentioning THEM in the same breath as the 1972 Dolphins.  And the rest of that breath would be, "The 19-0 2015 Carolina Panthers were better than..."

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Plus, Ted Ginn Jr. is on the Panthers.  He got a bad rap in Miami, but every team he has played for since has done well.  Since Miami dumped him, they have gone down the sewer.
...what?

Miami's record with The Ginn Family: 19-29 (.395)
Miami's record since: 41-52 (.440)

Your fundamental premise is flawed; even if Brady loses literally every NFL game he plays in from this point forward, he will be considered the consensus best QB in AFC East history, best QB in AFC history, and on the short list of best QB in NFL history.  Failing to win another Super Bowl will not change any of these things.

However, a 19-0 team (any team) immediately tarnishes the accomplishment of the 1972 Dolphins in ways that are difficult to even describe.  It is hard to imagine a scenario in which someone argues for the 17-0 Super Bowl Champion Dolphins as the greatest team ever if a 19-0 Super Bowl Champion exists.  Again, this has nothing to do with Brady, Belichick, or anything they do this year.
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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2015, 03:25:37 am »

I felt differently when the Colts were threatening to run the table in 2009.  I remember rooting for the Saints in the Superbowl because if the Colts had won that game, everybody would be mentioning them in the same breath as the 1972 Dolphins.

Where do you come up with this?
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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2015, 03:53:02 am »

I wouldn't.

I felt differently when the Colts were threatening to run the table in 2009.  I remember rooting for the Saints in the Superbowl because if the Colts had won that game, everybody would be mentioning them in the same breath as the 1972 Dolphins.

But now I feel differently about it.  Even if the Panthers run the table, at least for another year the 2007 Patriots will always remain the biggest choke job in sports history.

I just don't want to listen to Patriots fans celebrate yet another Super Bowl victory that they win because their opponent decided to literally hand the game to them. 

Plus, Ted Ginn Jr. is on the Panthers.  He got a bad rap in Miami, but every team he has played for since has done well.  Since Miami dumped him, they have gone down the sewer.

Seriously, this Pats obsession is out of hand. Read this post now that you have written it and think about it. The Panthers having an undefeated season has absolutely nothing to do with the Pats 2007 season, which I never hear anyone bring up as a sign of accomplishment since they lost the most important part.
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« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2015, 09:09:59 am »

@SpiderDan- Why would people say the 2015 Panthers are better than the 72 Phins? The Panthers are the worst undefeated team this late in the season that you've ever seen, right?

The 72 undefeated season is a nice thing for Miami fans, but it's not viewed the same way by anyone else. They played a regular season schedule against opponents under .400, barely made it past Pittsburgh to the Super Bowl, and were underdogs when they got there. That tells me that people look at your team and say, "they haven't been beaten, but they're easily beatable." I've never seen a single "Greatest teams of all time," list that has them at number 1, either. Undefeated is a fantastic achievement, but let's keep it in perspective- eventually a team will match what they did, and when that happens, that team SHOULD be thought of as better than the 72 Phins. In fact, there are a few teams that are already thought of as better than the 72 Mimai team even though they didn't go undefeated.
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« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2015, 09:18:31 am »

There aren't "a few teams that are already thought of as better than the 72 Miami team" as you put it. It's kind of funny but the 85 Bears are typically considered the best team ever and the 72 Phins as second.  Even funnier considering their one loss was to the Phins. 
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