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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2015, 09:08:31 am »

32-12 with 3 division titles in the last three seasons is considered failing miserably. Got it. Carry on.

I'd like the dolphins to fail that well
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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2015, 11:19:09 am »

I'd imagine it would be even better for the Dolphins to go 16-0 and then lose in the Super Bowl, yet we still laugh at the Patriots for that.
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« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2015, 02:08:28 pm »

One thing always lost in this discussion with the '72 Dolphins is what they did the following year, losing only 2 games and repeating as Super Bowl champions.  This, in a day and age where players didn't leave and the roster was, basically, the same - playing against teams who - likewise - had similar rosters (IE, it's not like Miami went out and "rented" a "super star" to put them over the top).

So, for that two year period, Miami went 32-2 and two titles over that span.  The consensus #1 / 2 team (Bears) went 11-4 the year following 1986 and lost in the divisional round.  The Bears, like Miami, also played in a time without a salary cap, and prior to free agency; they could sign whoever the hell they wanted.

I look at the body of what with both, generally dismissing the "Miami had a light schedule" argument for the undefeated season (when discussion "greatest team ever").  That same team rattled off 32 wins / 2 losses and two titles in, that was pretty damn impressive.  The Bears, going 11-4 the following year was impressive as well.

For my money, a lot comes into play with "greatest team ever."  A couple 49er teams come to mind, as do Steelers teams, which shouldn't be dismissed.  I digress.

The Carolina Panthers - regardless of who they have played...have won.  Every single time.  You beat who you're supposed to beat, and they can't control the schedule.  I think they have a shot at something special, I'd like to see a Panther / Cardinal came (with both teams healthy).
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« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2015, 02:28:28 pm »


The Panthers definitely have a relatively clear path to that 16-0 mark, with only the Giants, Falcons and Bucs left on the schedule. I have a hard time, in a vacuum, seeing any of those teams beating Carolina. Anything is possible, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Carolina runs the table.

The NFC playoffs are going to be absolutely brutal this year. Carolina, Arizona, Green Bay, Seattle...any of them could beat any of the others on any given Sunday. I would almost guarantee that whichever scrub team comes out of the NFC East is going to get bounced and trounced solidly the opening week of the playoffs.


 
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« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2015, 03:25:32 pm »

After watching Eli's Giants stumble drunkenly through the regular season and then become playoff juggernauts, not once but twice, I wouldn't want to be the person on the opposite side of a bet on an NYG playoff game.
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« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2015, 04:12:26 pm »

One thing always lost in this discussion with the '72 Dolphins is what they did the following year, losing only 2 games and repeating as Super Bowl champions.  This, in a day and age where players didn't leave and the roster was, basically, the same - playing against teams who - likewise - had similar rosters (IE, it's not like Miami went out and "rented" a "super star" to put them over the top).

So, for that two year period, Miami went 32-2 and two titles over that span.  The consensus #1 / 2 team (Bears) went 11-4 the year following 1986 and lost in the divisional round.  The Bears, like Miami, also played in a time without a salary cap, and prior to free agency; they could sign whoever the hell they wanted.

I look at the body of what with both, generally dismissing the "Miami had a light schedule" argument for the undefeated season (when discussion "greatest team ever").  That same team rattled off 32 wins / 2 losses and two titles in, that was pretty damn impressive.  The Bears, going 11-4 the following year was impressive as well.

For my money, a lot comes into play with "greatest team ever."  A couple 49er teams come to mind, as do Steelers teams, which shouldn't be dismissed.  I digress.

The Carolina Panthers - regardless of who they have played...have won.  Every single time.  You beat who you're supposed to beat, and they can't control the schedule.  I think they have a shot at something special, I'd like to see a Panther / Cardinal came (with both teams healthy).

Add in they were 10-3-1 and lost in the Super Bowl the year prior.
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« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2015, 05:20:34 pm »

Honestly, if Carolina loses a game this regular season, this weekend is the one that I think they may get upset in, partly because Stewart is out, and Olsen is questionable. Even if he plays, it will be with a bad wheel, and Cam relies on him so much, that not having a 100% Olsen will hurt the offense. No knock on Dickson, but Olsen is having an All-Pro year.
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« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2015, 10:16:42 pm »

Panthers get taken down next Sunday in New York.  The Giants are true Giant Killers!

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« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2015, 10:17:13 pm »

Ted Ginn sure lit it up today.  

Miami never should have let him go.  

One of the dumbest moves in team history.

Don't know what they were thinking with that.  
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« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2015, 08:06:14 am »

^^^ Ted Ginn was crap. Stone hands and didn't want someone hitting him.
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« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2015, 09:37:15 am »

Ted Ginn sure lit it up today.  

Miami never should have let him go.  

One of the dumbest moves in team history.

Don't know what they were thinking with that.  

Ted Ginn is having his first good (not great) year since we drafted him EIGHT YEARS AGO!  One of the dumbest moves in this sites history is you thinking it was a mistake getting rid of him.
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« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2015, 10:13:58 am »

On the other hand, two of his best years have come with Carolina and Cam throwing him the ball. I don't think that's coincidence. Ginn is a middle of the road receiver at best, but it's not like he was getting the ball thrown to him by any of the greats of the game outside of Newton.

And don't give me that "Carson Palmer isn't great?!" Debate. Palmer only played 5 1/2 games the year Ginn was in Arizona and he was looking for Floyd and Fitzgerald when he did play.

If you've watched any of Carolina's games this year what you've seen is Ted dropping sure-thing catches and Cam going back to him right away. One of many reasons Newton is going to run away with the MVP this year- he has no memory of previous plays or drops. Every snap is fresh and he isn't going to shy away from either Ginn or Brown after their numerous dropped balls.
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« Reply #57 on: December 27, 2015, 03:59:42 pm »

Apparently the answer to the thread is, "Atlanta."
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« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2015, 04:45:02 pm »

Panthers aren't going to win the Super Bowl.  I doubt they will even make it there.
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« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2015, 06:43:00 pm »

Given what I am watching right now, the Cardinals look like the team to beat
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