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Run Ricky Run
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« on: December 29, 2015, 07:52:51 pm »

Wow.  Talk about a short leash.  That seems like quite an overreaction.
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2015, 09:29:27 pm »

I wouldn't call it a short leash.

He was on a short leash, but after two years of relative success, they took him off the leash entirely.  And his first action was to trash the entire front yard.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2015, 09:32:47 pm »

He had one bad year after two 10 win seasons?  He made a move to try to get a qb that didn't work out.  Was he supposed to stick with Sanchez? Foles is awful, what other free agent qbs could he have gotten.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2015, 09:36:25 pm »

He didn't make "one move"; he made many moves and ran all of their offensive skill players out of town.

He was fired because his first action after assuming GM duties was to blow up the team.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2015, 09:44:14 pm »

He didn't make "one move"; he made many moves and ran all of their offensive skill players out of town.

He was fired because his first action after assuming GM duties was to blow up the team.

Desean Jackson has 528 yards receiving this year.  Kiko alonso was supposed to be a good linebacker.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2015, 09:50:17 pm »

If Kelly had kept DJax, McCoy, Foles, and Maclin, and was still 6-9 right now, he'd still have a job and could ship them off this offseason.

Kelly's problem is precisely that he chose to sell high on all of his skill players, and he got bums in return.  Basically, if you are going to blow up a (again, relatively) successful team because you are just that much smarter than the previous GM, you'd better show immediate results.

Kelly went way over the top trying to prove how smart he was, and he's not that smart.

edit: Blowing up the team was only part of the problem.  The other part was the transparently idiotic moves he made to rebuild it.

You want to get rid of Nick Foles?  Fine.  But why trade Nick Foles and draft picks (!!!) to the Rams for Sam Bradford and his ridiculous contract?
You want to get rid of LeSean McCoy?  OK, I guess, but then why give a monster contract to DeMarco Murray, who is clearly worse?
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2015, 09:59:48 pm »

If Kelly had kept DJax, McCoy, Foles, and Maclin, and was still 6-9 right now, he'd still have a job and could ship them off this offseason.

Kelly's problem is precisely that he chose to sell high on all of his skill players, and he got bums in return.  Basically, if you are going to blow up a (again, relatively) successful team because you are just that much smarter than the previous GM, you'd better show immediate results.

Kelly went way over the top trying to prove how smart he was, and he's not that smart.



No, hes not that smart and but compared to a lot of other coaches he isn't stupid. Who are the eagles going to replace him with?  They just fired a coach who took over a 4-12 team and led them to a 26-21 record. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2015, 11:58:03 pm »

No, hes not that smart and but compared to a lot of other coaches he isn't stupid. Who are the eagles going to replace him with?  They just fired a coach who took over a 4-12 team and led them to a 26-21 record.
They obviously can't keep him as the GM, because he's horrible at it.  So what should the Eagles do... demote him back down to coach only?  Kelly has no reason to agree to a pay cut with that demotion, as he will get the money even if he's fired.
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2015, 12:06:17 am »

They obviously can't keep him as the GM, because he's horrible at it.  So what should the Eagles do... demote him back down to coach only?  Kelly has no reason to agree to a pay cut with that demotion, as he will get the money even if he's fired.

Let him learn from his mistakes? He was GM for one year, there is no reason to take that away regardless of how bad it was. I would welcome him with open arms in Miami.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2015, 05:02:46 am »

He doesn't seem to think he made any mistakes, so it's hard to see how he's learned from them.  According to Kelly, they barely made any changes at all.

I'm also not sure how making the playoffs once (and immediately losing) makes Kelly some sort of genius, and I certainly don't see why anyone would want him over Sean Payton.  Not only were the pre-Payton Saints worse than the pre-Kelly Eagles, Payton did more with them.

Tell me why Chip Kelly after 3 years has been better than Tony Sparano after 3 years.
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2015, 01:04:52 pm »

Sparqno was one game over 500 and Kelly is 5 games over. Seems like a pretty simple answer. And if there records were close, which they aren't, Kelly was a proven winning college coach. The same reason a 1st rd qb gets 4 years but a 4th rd pick gets one.

Having back to back ten win seasons is pretty good.
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2015, 01:36:19 pm »

I'm all for the Dolphins hiring Chip Kelly.  It won't cost any draft picks, he has NFL head coaching experience, and he's not a bad coach.  Just don't make him the GM.  Miami needs to grab him up before other teams fire their coaches and go after him.
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2015, 02:26:52 pm »

Sparqno was one game over 500 and Kelly is 5 games over. Seems like a pretty simple answer.
Sparano inherited a significantly worse team, which you specifically mentioned as a relevant factor.  Also, Sparano was 25-23 (.521), while Kelly is 26-21 (.553).  If Kelly is any better than Sparano, it certainly isn't by much... and I don't know that "barely better than Tony Sparano after 3 years!" is any sort of ringing endorsement.

In any case, Kelly shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Sean Payton.
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2015, 03:37:37 pm »

Yes. That makes sense. Just kidding.  Sparano had a healthy Chad Pennington for his only winning season. Sean Payton had Drew Brees. Chip Kelly had mark Sanchez nick foles and Sam Bradford. In a qb driven league he had nobody.
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2015, 08:12:52 pm »

Chip Kelly the GM got Chip Kelly the coach fired.
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