All things regarding Dolphins coaching search

[EDGECRUSHER]

God, I hate the Rooney Rule. It's such awful pandering and insulting. I would feel terrible as a black man being interviewed, thinking it's only because of my skin color.

[Rich]

I don't get all this love for Sean Payton.  The Saints have sucked the past two seasons, losing many games they should have won easily.  Payton was just lucky to get Brees when he was at the top of his game.

The Saints missed the playoffs in 2014 while playing in one of the worst divisions in football. A 7-8-1 record by Carolina won the division.

You have an all time great QB and you can't win a division in which all the other teams were under .500?

[Run Ricky Run]

The saints have been in salary cap hell for a while haven't they?

[Dolfanalyst]

The Saints missed the playoffs in 2014 while playing in one of the worst divisions in football. A 7-8-1 record by Carolina won the division.

You have an all time great QB and you can't win a division in which all the other teams were under .500?

That can happen when you have the absolute worst defense in the league.

Again, see here for how all of these variables combine to contribute to winning:

http://archive.advancedfootballanalytics.com/2007/07/what-makes-teams-win-part-1.html

Quarterback play is definitely driving the bus, but pass defense isn't far behind -- you also have to contend with the other team's quarterback.

And in terms of opposing teams' QB rating and yards per pass attempt, the Saints were worst in the league, and by a fairly significant margin.

For example, opposing teams' QB rating against the Saints was 116.  The next-worst pass defense in the league in that regard surrendered a QB rating of 102, and the average team surrendered a QB rating of only 88.

Drew Brees, although playing largely like his customary self throughout the year, was certainly up against it.

[Rich]

How much say does Payton have in personnel?

Doesn't matter. He should be able to squeak out 8 wins in that division....

[Tenshot13]

Well, Payton doesn't matter anymore...he's staying in NO.

[Rich]

Well, Payton doesn't matter anymore...he's staying in NO.

Thankfully. I wasn't high on the guy.

He already won a Superbowl and since no coach has ever won a Superbowl with two different teams...

He had a scandal with Bountygate. There are rumors that he's a pill popper. And he couldn't win the weakest division in football despite having a future Hall of Famer playing QB at an elite level.

The only problem is that this class of coaches is pretty weak. I think the likelihood of us getting a good one is low. Hope I am wrong.

[masterfins]

It's such awful pandering and insulting.

I find it more insulting that the rich white owners in the NFL would never even consider interviewing a black person.  The rule is needed for a certain period of time to give qualified black people a chance to get positions as OC, DC, & HC positions, and eventually it will have served out its purpose.

[Tenshot13]

I find it more insulting that the rich white owners in the NFL would never even consider interviewing a black person.  The rule is needed for a certain period of time to give qualified black people a chance to get positions as OC, DC, & HC positions, and eventually it will have served out its purpose.

I think that time is now.  There are many successful black coaches.  I would like to think that the owners wouldn't hire someone  just because they're black in this day and age.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I think that time is now.  There are many successful black coaches.  I would like to think that the owners wouldn't hire someone  just because they're black in this day and age.

And if there are owners who exist that wouldn't hire a black man, forcing them to interview a black man won't change that. They are not going to have an awakening and change their racist ways just because they met Hue Jackson.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Even if Payton wasn't coming here, it's good to have lots of options for leverage purposes, not to mention you won't have 8 teams fighting over one guy. If the trade price for Payton was too high, then we leak some talks with other coaches in hopes of driving it down.

That's gone now though. Right now, I would prefer Doug Marrone if he brings along Jim Schwartz. Marrone was apparently an egomaniac, but I hope this season humbled him.

[CF DolFan]

So ... the rumor is Lovie Smith was fired becuase of the Dolpins.

Report: Dolphins interest in Dirk Koetter led to upheaval in Tampa Bay
Andrew Abramson

http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/01/07/report-dolphins-interest-in-dirk-koetter-led-to-upheaval-in-tampa-bay/

Just when it seemed all of the Dolphins coaching candidates had been revealed, another has popped up. And it might have to led to some major upheaval in Tampa Bay.

The Buccaneers surprising fired coach Lovie Smith late Wednesday night after just two seasons in Tampa Bay.

It’s already being speculated that the Bucs made the moves so they could promote offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter, who is popular in the Tampa Bay locker room and helped develop rookie quarterback Jameis Winston.

But did the Dolphins help spur the moves?

The Tampa Bay Times’ Rick Stroud reports that “Koetter is in play as a candidate for the Dolphins.”

As the Dolphins interest peaked, the Buccaneers ownership and general manager Jason Licht “felt they had to move quickly,” according to the Times.

And now NFL Network reports that the Dolphins have requested to interview Koetter.

Koetter has also been linked to the Eagles opening, but he hasn’t interviewed for the job.

He was previously offensive coordinator of the Jaguars and Falcons and head coach at Boise State and Arizona.

Dolphins head executive Mike Tannenbaum, who was an agent in between his time with the Jets and Dolphins, was Koetter’s agent.

Tannenbaum also represented Cincinnati offensive coordinator Hue Jackson, who is scheduled to meet with the Dolphins on Sunday.

You’d have to think Koetter is most likely to remain in Tampa Bay as the Buccaneers coach after the Bucs cleared the way for his hire by firing Smith.

Tampa Bay still has to go through an interview process and follow the Rooney Rule.

[masterfins]

And if there are owners who exist that wouldn't hire a black man, forcing them to interview a black man won't change that. They are not going to have an awakening and change their racist ways just because they met Hue Jackson.

It if the owner is blatantly racist, then sure they aren't going to hire a black person regardless.  But racism or prejudice exists on many levels, sometimes subconsciously.  So doing the interviews breaks down some of that barrier, and although they may not be considered for that particular HC job, they may be considered for other jobs.

[Spider-Dan]

Part of the reason the Rooney Rule exists is to give coaches the opportunity to impress management.

It should be obvious that the NFL is highly incestuous when it comes to the hiring of head coaches and coordinators; teams love to hire retreads.  So the Rooney Rule gives minority coaches the chance to at least interview for a position and make a case.  Even in the instances where it's purely a formality and the new head coach is essentially already determined, if a candidate interviews really well, it can get out and raise his stock (or, in the case of someone like Ted Cottrell, lower it).

[Dolfanalyst]

Part of the reason the Rooney Rule exists is to give coaches the opportunity to impress management.

It should be obvious that the NFL is highly incestuous when it comes to the hiring of head coaches and coordinators; teams love to hire retreads.  So the Rooney Rule gives minority coaches the chance to at least interview for a position and make a case.  Even in the instances where it's purely a formality and the new head coach is essentially already determined, if a candidate interviews really well, it can get out and raise his stock (or, in the case of someone like Ted Cottrell, lower it).

Good points.  It's basically designed to counter the tendency for people to avoid interviewing minority coaches, if that's their inclination.  The rule prevents people from engaging in that avoidance.