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« on: January 15, 2016, 10:17:26 am »

Just an observation, nothing against his talents or what he might bring, but my initial "gut" reaction to this guy? He has that Joe Philbin deer-in-the-headlights look.  I sure as hell hope I'm wrong

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2016, 10:28:44 am »

On paper, this is the kind of guy I want.

He's apparently incredibly smart, which I like.  I hope he can motivate and I hope that he can break the mold of punting on 3rd down, like the NFL has become.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2016, 11:06:33 am »

On paper, this is the kind of guy I want.

He's apparently incredibly smart, which I like.  I hope he can motivate and I hope that he can break the mold of punting on 3rd down, like the NFL has become.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2016, 12:20:10 pm »

The thing about head coaches in this day age, in my opinion at least, is that they need to provide an intellectual advantage over the opposition, which puts their team in greater position to win.

The "rah rah" stuff, on the other hand, needs to be provided by leaders among the players.

Dan Campbell was great with the "rah rah," but look what happened when the leadership among the players was poor -- it lasted two games.

Here's a great video clip in my opinion of how this works on an NFL team, when everything is moving the right direction.  Notice here how Cowher's message is short and sweet, and the real "umph" comes from the leaders among the players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpOG9K02F_g&noredirect=1

Now compare that to this:

http://www.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/Coach-Campbells-Victory-Speech-Over-Philadelphia/2b2c877a-d46c-4ddc-9732-cbfa89cafb36
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 01:05:27 pm »

I'm looking forward to this new beginning.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2016, 02:34:55 pm »

Have not been sure what to make of this guy. All I will do is hope for the best regardless of this team's ineptitude in the past.

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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2016, 02:48:47 pm »

The thing about head coaches in this day age, in my opinion at least, is that they need to provide an intellectual advantage over the opposition, which puts their team in greater position to win.

The "rah rah" stuff, on the other hand, needs to be provided by leaders among the players.
Obviously player talent is very important, but what I admire most about Belichick (and what was most surprising about the first Wildcat game) is that he prepares his team for contingencies.  Really, as a head coach, your job should be:

1) Manage the clock.  I have no idea why more coaches don't hire a specific clock coach, and it's puzzling because many HCs are VERY BAD at this.
2) Prepare your team for unusual scenarios like taking a knee instead of scoring, eligible receiver shenanigans, goofy formations, etc.
3) Manage and motivate your players to achieve their best performance on gameday (which includes when and how you practice).
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2016, 02:49:32 pm »

On paper, this is the kind of guy I want.

He's apparently incredibly smart, which I like.  I hope he can motivate and I hope that he can break the mold of punting on 3rd down, like the NFL has become.
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I'm looking forward to this new beginning.

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While he might not end up as the next great coach,enough football people (outside the Miami Dolphins organization),can't stop saying enough good things about him.We did  a lot of interviews,but Unlike Philbin,he was one of our 1st choices.He wasn't well everyone else is going other places,we need to hurry and hire someone,because all the top choices are off the board.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2016, 02:54:35 pm »

The "rah rah" stuff, on the other hand, needs to be provided by leaders among the players.

Coaches should appropriately empower the right players to lead. The problem in Miami is that anyone who wanted to lead that didn't do so exactly how Philbin wanted was jettisoned. That left the locker room with few if any leaders.

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Dan Campbell was great with the "rah rah," but look what happened when the leadership among the players was poor -- it lasted two games.

Here's a great video clip in my opinion of how this works on an NFL team, when everything is moving the right direction.  Notice here how Cowher's message is short and sweet, and the real "umph" comes from the leaders among the players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpOG9K02F_g&noredirect=1

Now compare that to this:

http://www.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/Coach-Campbells-Victory-Speech-Over-Philadelphia/2b2c877a-d46c-4ddc-9732-cbfa89cafb36


That's an anecdotal comparison. It doesn't mean this is exactly how it works all the time.
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2016, 05:01:14 pm »

Arguably the best college football coach in history, Nick Saban, is not a rah rah guy. He does yell but that doesn't have anything to do with it. First and foremost, he is a great leader and secobdly a great teacher. You can study all you want but if your players don't buy into it then you are screwed. At times Bellichick has some of the biggest a-holes in the league believing in him and playing within the parameters he sets. It is done out of respect ... not rah rah. 

With that said you still need team leaders and that is something we sorely miss. Mostly because we haven't had a coach that handle anyone who would qualify as a leader.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2016, 05:17:43 pm »

And we have a quarterback who is not a leader.
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2016, 05:44:07 am »

With that said you still need team leaders and that is something we sorely miss. Mostly because we haven't had a coach that handle anyone who would qualify as a leader.

There also really hasn't been any one who would qualify as a leader.  To qualify as a leader, a player must first be good, and he must show selflessness, a strong work ethic, an ability to make plays in the clutch to help the team win in those crucial situations, and an ability to inspire his teammates vocally and emotionally.

That player hasn't existed on this team in recent years.  Cameron Wake is about the closest fit, and I don't think he inspires his teammates vocally and emotionally.  He may inspire them by example, but he's not the Ray Lewis-esque leader type who inspires directly in that way.

Contrary to seemingly popular belief, Brandon Marshall, Reggie Bush, Jake Long, Karlos Dansby, and Vontae Davis were not those players, either.  They were the best the team had at the time, but they were far from the prototypical mold.
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2016, 06:56:32 am »

And we have a quarterback who is not a leader.

I know this is your usual Tannehill trolling, but this is certainly one area where he needs to step up. Not necessarily rah rah rah, but leadership by demanding and expecting that those around him work as hard as he does -- and tries as hard as he does. Fortunately, his chemistry with the two young receivers looks like it's great and that will go  a long ways. Now it's mainly the oline...
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2016, 03:59:22 pm »

I know this is your usual Tannehill trolling, but this is certainly one area where he needs to step up. Not necessarily rah rah rah, but leadership by demanding and expecting that those around him work as hard as he does -- and tries as hard as he does. Fortunately, his chemistry with the two young receivers looks like it's great and that will go  a long ways. Now it's mainly the oline...

You have a catch-22 here though.  You can't demand better play from those around you unless yours is beyond repute.  Tannehill is nowhere near that echelon.

The qualities of a leader I mentioned above, as applied to Tannehill:

Good player:  sometimes.
Selflessness:  check.
Strong work ethic:  check.
Ability to make plays in the clutch:  woeful.
Vocal and emotional inspiration:  woeful.

He's got two and a half of the five.
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2016, 05:25:14 pm »

You have a catch-22 here though.  You can't demand better play from those around you unless yours is beyond repute.  Tannehill is nowhere near that echelon.

Bull. And since I was expecting that bull from either you or Run, I very specifically wrote "demanding and expecting those around him work as hard as he does".

That you went ahead with the bull anyway just proves the point that you're full of it.
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