New Head Coach Adam Gase

[Dolfanalyst]

Proves my point that you can't measure quarterbacks by a team stat.

Is there a statistic you feel could be used to measure quarterbacks?

[dolphins4life]

I will answer that one later, first I want an answer to my question.

Why do you hire a new coach so quickly?  How can you be sure right away he is the right fit?

[dolphins4life]

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I think your keyboard malfunctioned.

[fyo]

That game consisted of winning plays from the quarterback position, involving escaping pressure with movement and making throws downfield, the types of plays Tannehill has been very, very rarely capable of.

Again, those kinds of plays are very, very rarely made by Ryan Tannehill.  He far more often succumbs to pressure, rather than evading it with movement and making a play in the face of it.

Just out of curiosity, do you have any statistics to back that up?

Pro Football Focus has Tannehill as the third best quarterback in the league under pressure (for 2015, anyway):

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/05/20/qbs-in-focus-under-pressure/

I found a different page on PFF where they break down the 2014 numbers. Here they have Tannehill as the fourth best on scrambles and third best on rollouts.

Basically, I'm struggling to find any statistic that substantiates your claim. Looks like Tannehill is almost elite on those plays, just going by PFF. (That's not necessarily my own impression, but whatever).

[Dolfanalyst]

Just out of curiosity, do you have any statistics to back that up?

Pro Football Focus has Tannehill as the third best quarterback in the league under pressure (for 2015, anyway):

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/05/20/qbs-in-focus-under-pressure/

I found a different page on PFF where they break down the 2014 numbers. Here they have Tannehill as the fourth best on scrambles and third best on rollouts.

Basically, I'm struggling to find any statistic that substantiates your claim. Looks like Tannehill is almost elite on those plays, just going by PFF. (That's not necessarily my own impression, but whatever).

Nope, no statistics.  Merely observational.  I could be as prone to confirmation bias in this area as anyone else is when making observations that aren't checked with objective data.

[Phishfan]

Be warned once again. This thread is not an analytical thread about Ryan Tannehill (nor Rodgers and Palmer especially). Keep it on topic guys or it's getting shut down. I'm tired of seeing every thread come back to the same discussion. Start the appropriate threads for the appropriate topics and you won't hear this anymore.

[Dolfanalyst]

Be warned once again. This thread is not an analytical thread about Ryan Tannehill (nor Rodgers and Palmer especially). Keep it on topic guys or it's getting shut down. I'm tired of seeing every thread come back to the same discussion. Start the appropriate threads for the appropriate topics and you won't hear this anymore.

When various threads tend to gravitate to the same topic, it gives you some idea of where the fans believe the fortunes of the team largely hinge.

I'll do my part to fix this in a moment.

[Sunstroke]

When various threads tend to gravitate to the same topic, it gives you some idea of where the fans believe the fortunes of the team largely hinge.

When various threads tend to gravitate to the same topic, it means that the same few people like to argue about the exact same thing, no matter where they happen to be at the time.

On a thread-related note: I have always been a big fan of hiring up-and-coming young coaches to be the team's head coach. Gase definitely fits the mold I'm looking for, so I am glad Miami got him. Hopefully, the front office won't sabotage him tooooo much.

[Dolfanalyst]

When various threads tend to gravitate to the same topic, it means that the same few people like to argue about the exact same thing, no matter where they happen to be at the time.

Not necessarily, because if the topic they were arguing about was irrelevant to the team's success, no one would respond.

If someone continually brought up John Denney's expertise in punt coverage, for example, I doubt much of a back-and-forth would ensue.  Bring up the team's ambiguous quarterback on the other hand, and due to its relationship with the team's future success, as well as its relationship with the new head coach (Gase's apparently having been hired in large part to improve the quarterback), you'll get strong sentiments.

Anyway, there is now a Ryan Tannehill thread.  Participate in or avoid it at will.

[Phishfan]

Anyway, there is now a Ryan Tannehill thread.  Participate in or avoid it at will.

There was. Just creating a topic with nothing in it is a waste of space. You need to have some input to create a topic. Otherwise we just have a ton of topics listed with no insight.

[Dolfanalyst]

There was. Just creating a topic with nothing in it is a waste of space. You need to have some input to create a topic. Otherwise we just have a ton of topics listed with no insight.

Ah, well, sorry.  I guess no good deed goes unpunished.

[Sunstroke]

Ah, well, sorry.  I guess no good deed goes unpunished.

More like: No meaningless scribble goes unerased.

[Dolfanalyst]

More like: No meaningless scribble goes unerased.

Yeah, well, there's probably a nicer way to do it.  But since we're all anonymous here, I guess consideration for others' feelings goes out the window.

[masterfins]

I will answer that one later, first I want an answer to my question.

Why do you hire a new coach so quickly?  How can you be sure right away he is the right fit?

What's your definition of quickly??  Every team that had a coaching vacancy has filled the spot; and some of those teams hadn't decided to let their HC go until the last week or two of the season.  Miami fired Philbin 3 months ago.  Do you think they were twiddling their fingers until the end of the season before they started their coaching search???

[Sunstroke]

Yeah, well, there's probably a nicer way to do it. 

You should start a message board and choose that nicer way. You could call it www.thestatisticsmakemesleepy .com

But since we're all anonymous here, I guess consideration for others' feelings goes out the window.

Hardly anonymous at all. A large number of the members live here in South Florida and see each other from time to time. A lot of the non-local members have come down for TDMMC tailgate parties and events as well. Of the people you see posting up here, I've probably met around 20-30 of them.