Controversey in Denver

[Run Ricky Run]

Here's a disturbing fact:

The Patriots could have at least nine super bowls if not for bad officiating

2005: PI call on Samuel plus missed call on forced fumble on INT return
2006: Five bad calls against Indy in the AFC title game
2007: Missed holding call on the Tyree play
2013: Missed holding call on the first drive of the AFC title game.
2015: Missed PI on Gronk in the endzone.

And they could have 0 Super Bowls if not for the tuck rule.

[Cathal]

You keep saying the word "fact", but I don't think that means what you think it means.

[Phishfan]

Here's a disturbing fact:

The Patriots could have at least nine super bowls if not for bad officiating

2005: PI call on Samuel plus missed call on forced fumble on INT return
2006: Five bad calls against Indy in the AFC title game
2007: Missed holding call on the Tyree play
2013: Missed holding call on the first drive of the AFC title game.
2015: Missed PI on Gronk in the endzone.

Dude, you don't do yourself any favors. Virtually no one other than Pats fans think that was PI but you have brought it up more times in these forums than I have heard from all other sources combined. Stop obsessing on "bad" calls against the Pats if you dislike them so much. Also, these AFC Championship games don't equate to Super Bowl titles but you keep listing them as examples. I see very little in the way of fact here. It is almost as if MikeO were making the post as a Pats fan.

[dolphins4life]

It is because I dislike them so much, especially Brady, that I keep obsessing over them. 

[fyo]

[Sunstroke]

^^^ That is Awe...and then Some!

[Tenshot13]

That some up the paragraph I was about to type out very nicely.

[dolphins4life]

Here's another thing on your so called "Controversy"...did you really think Gronk was going to catch that ball when he was blanketed by two defenders?  It's not unheard of, especially for Gronk, but it was unlikely he would have caught that without what you call PI (which was ticky-tacky at best)...

Look at this GIF D4L...watch it...keep watching it...watch it loop over and over.  Do you REALLY think this is PI?  If the answer is yes, then you really are a Pats fan.  If it is no, you're still a Pats fan, but your starting to hide it better again.

EDIT:  Sorry, it was THREE defenders...

Talib's arms encircling Gronk does NOT constitute PI because it did not affect his ability to jump for the ball.  This is common on plays like this because it is like boxing out in basketball.

The thing I question was his arm grabbing the jersey.  That is what prevented him from jumping as high as he could.

Watching this over and over, I think I might have something to say the refs made the right call.

<gets excited>

[dolphins4life]

AHA I THINK THE REFS MADE THE RIGHT CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch the video. 

Notice When Gronk jumps for it, the ball arrives almost instantly, and the defenders converge on him.  The ball falls incomplete.

Even if he had not been held, he still wouldn't have caught it because he wouldn't have been able to get his arms together in time because of number 33.

But number 33's actions are not illegal because it is incidental contact and he clearly is making a play on the ball which he has the right to do. 

Thus, the refs determined that the pass was not catchable.

Also, if there is any question, the refs are not supposed to throw the flag.

Is the legitimate?   

[dolphins4life]

Did you see my other thread btw?  Was Inigo Montoya a fan of the guy he was obsessing over?