2016 Election

[Tenshot13]

If Trump somehow manages to get elected - Dear Lord, have mercy - then America will be the laughingstock of the planet for the next 4 years.

Hate to break it to you, but America has been the laughing stock of the planet for the last 16 years...

[Phishfan]

Hate to break it to you, but America has been the laughing stock of the planet for the last 16 years...

This just sounds like a great talking point quote to me. Countries may laugh at us, we laugh at other countries, they laugh at someone else and the cycle continues. It's no different that telling a joke about being from New Jersey to someone from New York. How you react and what you learn should be the key, not just the fact someone laughs at you because everyone gets laughed at.

[DaLittle B]

I'm not sure how to vote,It's not like I want Hillary,and I like what Bernie Sanda's  I don't see him winning.It's the who's left on that side.

Hillary probably has my vote,I'm not rah rah,go Hillary Wooohoo Go Hillary...

Modified to add...Let me clarify...I'd rather be castrated by a wooden spoon before voting for Trump,Cruz,and probably Rubio too.

[Spider-Dan]

I'd love it if Elizabeth Warren were in this race, and I'd vote for her without reservation (ba dum tish), but as it is my primary vote is probably going to Hillary.

If Bernie gets to the general, Swift Boat and Bill Ayers will look like patty cakes compared to the nuclear bombs the right will drop on Bernie.  Bernie is on the record as saying that major industries in America should be nationalized (something that Hillary will never mention about him in a primary).  In contrast, I think the GOP has been throwing everything they have at Hillary since 2013, and there's nothing to attack her with that they haven't already been deploying.

[DaLittle B]

^ me too, I'm so enamored with Elizabeth Warren,and the stuff she says.   I was disappointed when she said she would run...

[Rich]

I'd love it if Elizabeth Warren were in this race

Yep! Gotta love candidates who want to regulate credit lending while being completely ignorant on how it works.

[CF DolFan]

Elizabeth Warren confuses me. She is a very smart person so I have to scratch my head when I hear her speak. She used to be a Republican so I kind of pay attention to her to see how much we relate. In the very same breath she will condemn her former GOP cohorts for telling women what to do with their bodies and then yet expect those same government officials to pay for what women do with their bodies.

[Phishfan]

^^^ Not quite. By law, federal funding cannot be used for abortions. The government pays for a lot of what women do to their bodies, just not abortions so we should drop that speaking point.

[CF DolFan]

"The overwhelming majority of Planned Parenthood's services involve screening for and treating sexually transmitted diseases and infections, as well as providing contraception."

Even if we pretended the money doesn't cross buckets ... "The overwhelming majority of Planned Parenthood's services involve screening for and treating sexually transmitted diseases and infections, as well as providing contraception." That's pretty clear that we are paying for their sexual activity. Sexual activity that no one wants the government involved with.

[Spider-Dan]

I find it bizarre that we have no problem with taxpayer money being spent on wars that people find morally objectionable, but when it comes to constitutionally-guaranteed rights somehow there is this newfound moral veto.

There is all sorts of government spending that I disagree with but happens anyway; I disagree morally with the war on drugs.  Why is abortion (and family planning in general) a special case?

[Dave Gray]

That's something I've never understood.  Abortion is legal.

[Spider-Dan]

I believe the argument goes that even though abortion is legal (and a right guaranteed under the Constitution), some people really don't like it so we should never spend any government money on providing it.

This same logic is never applied to, say, sending money to Israel to prop up their military.

[Fau Teixeira]

we spend federal money on Viagra prescriptions .. why wouldn't we spend money on funding HIV screenings ? or HPV vaccines

i don't understand the double standard.. Well .. I "understand" it .. kinda .. men .. privilege .. etc .. but i don't think it's fair, nor have i ever heard a talking point about it from the right.

[Rich]

we spend federal money on Viagra prescriptions .. why wouldn't we spend money on funding HIV screenings ? or HPV vaccines

i don't understand the double standard.. Well .. I "understand" it .. kinda .. men .. privilege .. etc .. but i don't think it's fair, nor have i ever heard a talking point about it from the right.

So only women get HIV and HPV?

[Rich]

Elizabeth Warren confuses me. She is a very smart person

Someone who thinks student loans should go at 0.75% interest is not a very smart person. Or they are an extremely smart person that chooses topics that make people "feel" a certain way and present no logic to the equation. That would make them a manipulative, disingenuous person.