Barry Jackson: Dolphins' Coaching Making the Difference

[Spider-Dan]

Out of Philbin's three not-a-Philbin-guy trades, I was not in favor of any of them.  But of the three, Vontae was the least proven.

Marshall had already made multiple Pro Bowls, including one with MIA.
Wallace had already made a Pro Bowl and just scored 10 TDs the season before he was traded... the only MIA WR to get double-digit TDs in ten years.
In both of these cases, the trade left the WR corps destitute; one of the worst units in the league.

Vontae was still a pretty raw talent and MIA was able to get a 2nd for him.

[Tenshot13]

^^^ The receiver Spider is talking about is Mike Wallace. Marshall had been long gone by 2015.

Whoops...well, I'm not sad he's gone either.

[fyo]

Another article about the current coaching staff, this one about DC Vance Joseph:

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article112414212.html

Being straight with the players is definitely a good thing in my book. Not so sure about the level of sharing with the media, though. Nice for fans, but some players are bound to resent being called out publicly like that.

[Dolfanalyst]

Another article about the current coaching staff, this one about DC Vance Joseph:

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article112414212.html

Being straight with the players is definitely a good thing in my book. Not so sure about the level of sharing with the media, though. Nice for fans, but some players are bound to resent being called out publicly like that.

And I can see the rationale in that, and one part of me agrees with it (not calling out the players publicly), while another part of me says the fans are the team's "stockholders," and therefore sort of deserve a report on the performance of the business's "employees."  I'm not so sure the players shouldn't expect such a sharing of information, given that the fans pay their salaries.

[fyo]

And I can see the rationale in that, and one part of me agrees with it (not calling out the players publicly), while another part of me says the fans are the team's "stockholders," and therefore sort of deserve a report on the performance of the business's "employees."  I'm not so sure the players shouldn't expect such a sharing of information, given that the fans pay their salaries.

Given that logic, consumers everywhere pay the salaries of whatever workers make their products, but I don't think it would be reasonable to Ford to call out an individual employee publicly. Or Starbucks to publicly out one of their baristas, if you want to look at costumer-facing employees.

[Dolfanalyst]

Given that logic, consumers everywhere pay the salaries of whatever workers make their products, but I don't think it would be reasonable to Ford to call out an individual employee publicly. Or Starbucks to publicly out one of their baristas, if you want to look at costumer-facing employees.

And I can definitely see your logic there, too, but this is slightly different in that the fans of a team are wedded to a team unlike the "fans" of Starbucks, who can switch to whatever other coffee company they like if Starbucks disappoints them.

Of course we here know that better than anybody.  I doubt anybody here will be switching teams anytime soon, despite the consecutive years of non-playoff teams.

[BuccaneerBrad]

And I can definitely see your logic there, too, but this is slightly different in that the fans of a team are wedded to a team unlike the "fans" of Starbucks, who can switch to whatever other coffee company they like if Starbucks disappoints them.

Of course we here know that better than anybody.  I doubt anybody here will be switching teams anytime soon, despite the consecutive years of non-playoff teams.

I wouldn't be so sure of that.  From the stuff I've read on here, I know of at least two guys that have switched teams.  Who knows if there's more.

[Dolfanalyst]

I wouldn't be so sure of that.  From the stuff I've read on here, I know of at least two guys that have switched teams.  Who knows if there's more.

Why did you base your decision on geography when you could've picked any team in the league.  Hell, you could've picked the Patriots, the only NFL team in the middle of a dynasty!