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« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2019, 10:47:36 am »

Nah .. that's lazy thinking .. "respect for the office" means nothing when the holder of the office doesn't have "respect for the office" .. it would be like respecting a pedophile priest just because they're a priest .. thanks but no thanks.  Respect has to be earned. Morally bankrupt trump doesn't get respect because Obama earned it.
That's so F'ed up. Comparing Trump to a pedophile priest because you don't agree with him is extremely ridiculous and childish. The same with calling him Hitler. It only goes to show the ignorance of the person making the claims as they clearly don't know who Hitler was.
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« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2019, 11:11:43 am »

That's so F'ed up. Comparing Trump to a pedophile priest because you don't agree with him is extremely ridiculous and childish. The same with calling him Hitler. It only goes to show the ignorance of the person making the claims as they clearly don't know who Hitler was.

is it F'd up? .. the guy who boasted about surprise inspections at the teen USA pageant so he could see some under age tits..
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According to interviews BuzzFeed News conducted with former Miss Teen USA contestants, Trump did just that in 1997. Four women who were competing in the pageant that year — including one who was 15 at the time — recalled that Trump walked into the dressing area while they were changing.

and i've never called trump hitler .. you can look that up .. i've said repeatedly if you're going for a historical analogy that he's a less intelligent mussolini

Maybe you're just desensitized to how horrible of a human being this is, this is the "grab em by the pussy" guy .. the "shithole countries" and "mexico sends us rapists and criminals" guy .. he's the guy that stiffs contractors and pays off porn stars. I don't really understand how anyone with a shred of a moral compass can support this giant douchebag.  And it's not like he's some evil genius .. he's a morally corrupt russian puppet and from all accounts a tremendously lazy moron with no capacity for running this country.
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« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2019, 11:21:32 am »

^Not saying it did or didn't happen, but you might want to use a different source than BuzzFeed, they haven't been shown to be too reliable.
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« Reply #63 on: February 05, 2019, 11:41:20 am »

^ he boasted to howard stern that he's done it .. in his own words .. buzzfeed may or may not be reliable but when you have corroboration coming from trump himself .. i'll buy it
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« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2019, 12:20:21 pm »

That's so F'ed up. Comparing Trump to a pedophile priest because you don't agree with him is extremely ridiculous and childish. The same with calling him Hitler. It only goes to show the ignorance of the person making the claims as they clearly don't know who Hitler was.

I do know who Hitler was.  And Trump certainly has not done anything has horrible as what Hitler did in the l1940s

But parralles can certainly between drawn between Trump and Hitlers rise to power and first few years in office. 

Rishstag fire is not the exact same thing as conspiring with the Russians to illegally interfere with a US election, but parallels can be drawn.

You can’t compare the death camps to Trumps scapegoating Mexicans and Muslims.  But Trumps statements today are just as bad as what Hitler said early in his administration. 

No Trump’s policies haven’t reach the level of what Hitler did in Nov 1938.  But it certainly sounded like he would be okay with that level of violence based on his lack of concern for Heather Heyer .
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« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2019, 01:00:33 pm »

^ he boasted to howard stern that he's done it .. in his own words .. buzzfeed may or may not be reliable but when you have corroboration coming from trump himself .. i'll buy it

But don't you know, whatever he says or does didn't really happen. That's how people still support Trump.
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« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2019, 01:11:50 pm »

I do know who Hitler was.  And Trump certainly has not done anything has horrible as what Hitler did in the l1940s

But parralles can certainly between drawn between Trump and Hitlers rise to power and first few years in office. 

Rishstag fire is not the exact same thing as conspiring with the Russians to illegally interfere with a US election, but parallels can be drawn.

You can’t compare the death camps to Trumps scapegoating Mexicans and Muslims.  But Trumps statements today are just as bad as what Hitler said early in his administration. 

No Trump’s policies haven’t reach the level of what Hitler did in Nov 1938.  But it certainly sounded like he would be okay with that level of violence based on his lack of concern for Heather Heyer .
By that logic you must compare liberals to the Nazi party all the time. Their wanting to register and even ban guns puts them much closer to Hitler than anything Trump has done. Trump hasn't looked to take away any freedoms that I am aware of.
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« Reply #67 on: February 05, 2019, 01:38:26 pm »

By that logic you must compare liberals to the Nazi party all the time. Their wanting to register and even ban guns puts them much closer to Hitler than anything Trump has done. Trump hasn't looked to take away any freedoms that I am aware of.

Other than the freedom of free and fair elections.  Curtailed the press.  Access to healthcare, attempted to ban travel based on religion, rights of transgendered.  Weaking of the separation of church and state, which curtails the freedoms of non christians.

And the whole Nazi gun thing is an NRA myth.  Gun control was imposed on Germany by the allies after WWI.  The nazis did two thing: total ban of owning weapons imposed on one religious group.  And loosing gun control for everyone else.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/26/ben-carson/fact-checking-ben-carson-nazi-guns/
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« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2019, 02:13:30 pm »

By that logic you must compare liberals to the Nazi party all the time. Their wanting to register and even ban guns puts them much closer to Hitler than anything Trump has done. Trump hasn't looked to take away any freedoms that I am aware of.

You must have missed the last couple of years of his presidency. Remember where he wanted to take guns away and ask questions later? Forget about due process! The dems have never been anywhere near as extreme as him.
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« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2019, 02:39:49 pm »

You must have missed the last couple of years of his presidency. Remember where he wanted to take guns away and ask questions later? Forget about due process! The dems have never been anywhere near as extreme as him.
Huh???
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« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2019, 02:55:28 pm »

You make BS statements and pretend they are real. That doesn't make him evil.

Other than the freedom of free and fair elections. 
He hasn't stopped anyone legal from voting

Curtailed the press. 
He complains about the press just as they complain about him. It falls under the same freedom of speech but liberals don't think it should apply to conservatives.

Access to healthcare, attempted to ban travel based on religion,
He hasn't limited anyone's access to healthcare. He just doesn't want to make you and I pay for those who don't. The religion thing has already been misproven several times. He picked 7 terrorist countries. If it had been a Muslim ban he would have included countries like India as well as many others.

rights of transgendered.
  What rights have been taken away? They are free to suffer their mental illness just as they have always been.

of the separation of church and state, which curtails the freedoms of non christians.
Have I missed this new Christian privilege you speak of? Please fill me in so I can get it.

And the whole Nazi gun thing is an NRA myth.  Gun control was imposed on Germany by the allies after WWI.  The nazis did two thing: total ban of owning weapons imposed on one religious group.  And loosing gun control for everyone else.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/26/ben-carson/fact-checking-ben-carson-nazi-guns/
Nazi's took gun rights away and made people register guns. No different from what many of the Democrats want. I bet if you ask some current democrats they would even admit that Jews shouldn't have access to guns and should be exterminated. They don't seem to have to hide their racism any longer. 
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« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2019, 03:24:28 pm »

Huh???

There are plenty of videos/reports when it came out.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/28/trump-says-take-guns-first-and-worry-due-process-second-white-house-gun-meeting/381145002/

Maybe you'll believe FoxNews: https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5742980798001/#sp=show-clips

He's talking about bypassing due process to seize guns.
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« Reply #72 on: February 05, 2019, 03:53:28 pm »

I don’t get it. I would jump at the chance of visiting the White House. It’s the white house. People need to have some respect for the office, and the history. It’s not about who the individual president is, it’s about respect for the he office and for history. Be able to separate your own personal vie s and opinions, and have some respect for the office and the history. It’s not about politics. It’s about sport.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is strong around here. It's best if you let them have their quiet time....
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« Reply #73 on: February 05, 2019, 04:23:25 pm »


To be fair...I wouldn't want to spend that much time with anyone I consider a chronic liar, regardless of whether they are President of the USA, a star athlete, rock star or whatever. Folks who have no real relationship with the truth have no place in my world.

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« Reply #74 on: February 05, 2019, 06:22:59 pm »

He hasn't stopped anyone legal from voting
Please explain what you mean by this.

Any law (e.g. voter ID) that blocks someone who is otherwise legally qualified to vote is "stopping someone legal from voting." If you disagree, I can think of all kinds of new gun control laws that don't stop anyone legal from owning a gun... they would just throw up extra roadblocks to make sure we don't have the wrong people casting votes buying guns.

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He complains about the press just as they complain about him.
The press is not our elected government.  Why would you think the same standard applies both ways?  I mean, just because the President can have a journalist arrested, that doesn't mean a journalist can have the President arrested.

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Nazi's took gun rights away and made people register guns. No different from what many of the Democrats want.
The irony is that even if we grant your statement as true, it's irrelevant.  Gun rights would not have helped Jews in Nazi Germany any more than the 2nd Amendment helped Japanese-American citizens when government jackboots came to drag them and their families off to concentration camps.
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