New normal?

[Dolphster]

That's my fault, I quoted the wrong post...I meant to quote this one:
No you won't.  Most hunting rifles are semi automatic and not AR-15s.  Most Shotguns are semi automatic.


Just to add Dolphster, people use ARs to hunt hogs.  Since they're a nuisance animal, set up a feeder, wait for hogs to gather, and unload.  Never did this myself, but had a neighbor that did this all the time.

Ah, okay.  No worries about quoting the wrong post.  I should have figured that out when I was reading your reply and thinking to myself, "Wait, what?"

I'm sure that some people do use AR type rifles to get rid of nuisance animals.  I just meant that I don't personally know anyone who hunts with an AR-15. 

[CF DolFan]

Perhaps I'm wrong.

What is the intended function of a firearm?  As in, what is it designed to do?

Shooting. Most people never use their guns for anything more than target practice or shooting clay and they get enjoyment from that. It's a very small percentage of the actual guns that are used for hunting, protection, or even criminal acts.

When I was a teen we used to go over to friends house to shoot. His father had so many guns I can't even begin to guess. We shot guns from before the Civil War all the way up to fully automatic. He used to reload all of his shells as well so he had quite the set up. It was a lot of fun and no one ever got hurt.

[Cathal]

Shooting. Most people never use their guns for anything more than target practice or shooting clay and they get enjoyment from that. It's a very small percentage of the actual guns that are used for hunting, protection, or even criminal acts.

When I was a teen we used to go over to friends house to shoot. His father had so many guns I can't even begin to guess. We shot guns from before the Civil War all the way up to fully automatic. He used to reload all of his shells as well so he had quite the set up. It was a lot of fun and no one ever got hurt.

You very well know that the primary intention of a gun is to kill. Just because you didn't doesn't mean that's not its primary function.

[CF DolFan]

You very well know that the primary intention of a gun is to kill. Just because you didn't doesn't mean that's not its primary function.

So you're saying more people are killed or even injured by guns than clay pigeons being shot? I don't even think the two are close.

[Fau Teixeira]

I would like to see accountability ..  if someone buys a gun and is irresponsible with it and it ends up hurting people, then the purchaser should be responsible

[Cathal]

So you're saying more people are killed or even injured by guns than clay pigeons being shot? I don't even think the two are close.

Nowhere did I say that. I simply said that the primary intention of a gun is to shoot another person. Let's not go off on tangents. Can you agree that the primary function is to kill?

[Spider-Dan]

So you're saying more people are killed or even injured by guns than clay pigeons being shot? I don't even think the two are close.

I asked what firearms are DESIGNED FOR, not what people choose to use them for.  If you purchase a gun and the only thing you ever do with it is display it on your wall as a treasured collectible, that does not change the fact that it is a weapon purposefully designed to inflict lethal injury.

So when you compare guns to Jeeps or knives or baseball bats, keep in mind that all those other things are not created to kill.  Most knives are not created with the specific intent of injuring people, and those that are... are frequently outlawed, regardless of the 2nd Amendment.

[pondwater]

I asked what firearms are DESIGNED FOR, not what people choose to use them for.  If you purchase a gun and the only thing you ever do with it is display it on your wall as a treasured collectible, that does not change the fact that it is a weapon purposefully designed to inflict lethal injury.

So when you compare guns to Jeeps or knives or baseball bats, keep in mind that all those other things are not created to kill.  Most knives are not created with the specific intent of injuring people, and those that are... are frequently outlawed, regardless of the 2nd Amendment.

So you're saying that what something was designed to do outweighs what it ACTUALLY does? 99%+ of firearms owned in this country don't kill people. You're silly.

[Spider-Dan]

The overwhelming majority of weapons are not used, because we don't live in a post-apocalyptic dystopia.  That doesn't change what they are and what their primary intended purpose is.

By your logic, it doesn't make any sense to outlaw biological weapons, because how often are they actually used?

[pondwater]

The overwhelming majority of weapons are not used, because we don't live in a post-apocalyptic dystopia.  That doesn't change what they are and what their primary intended purpose is.

By your logic, it doesn't make any sense to outlaw biological weapons, because how often are they actually used?

Yes, because biological or nuclear makes a huge difference doesn't it? You seem to forget that using a weapon of any type can be offensive or defensive. If 99%+ of firearms aren't used to kill people, then firearms aren't a problem. It's common sense.

[Cathal]

So, I don't know if this should go here or somewhere else, but Trump wants to take people's guns without due process. How does that sit with ya'll? 

[Sunstroke]

So, I don't know if this should go here or somewhere else, but Trump wants to take people's guns without due process. How does that sit with ya'll?   

Trump doesn't want the guns, he wants constant media attention, and the wheel of drama stopped at "Guns" yesterday.

[Fau Teixeira]

does he tho ? .. he's all talk and no action .. he won't do jack or shit

[CF DolFan]

does he tho ? .. he's all talk and no action .. he won't do jack or shit

Of all recent presidents he seems to do more of what he says he will than the others .... so its possible.

[Sunstroke]

Of all recent presidents he seems to do more of what he says he will than the others .... so its possible.

He does do some of what he says...I'll give him that. The things he's doing are wrong, and he's a racist, narcissistic POS who is making America look like idiots to the world, but hey...he does do some of what he says.