What do you hold in high respect?

[Sunstroke]

Somehow Democrats have gone from "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" to "how can we get free stuff to the most people?". It's really sad and I don't say that facetiously. 

The fact that you say that facetiously is the saddest part of that statement...

[Phishfan]

The idea of Korea being a success is laughable. There is no oversight and the last I heard our observation was that it appeared they were increasing rather than dismantling.

As for what the country can do for me feelings, I know a guy who works strictly under the table, is a huge Trump supporter  (so much that he headbutted someone over it ) and is in the process of filing for Medicaid. Republicans love handouts, just not for other people.

[Tenshot13]

The idea of Korea being a success is laughable. There is no oversight and the last I heard our observation was that it appeared they were increasing rather than dismantling.

As for what the country can do for me feelings, I know a guy who works strictly under the table, is a huge Trump supporter  (so much that he headbutted someone over it ) and is in the process of filing for Medicaid. Republicans love handouts, just not for other people.

I would like to see where you read they were increasing rather than dismantling.  What I've seen is the opposite, so I'd like to compare it with what I've read.  What is the view of the return of Korean war vets remains on the left?  Is that not a big deal at all either?  Legit asking, not setting anything up I promise.

[DaLittle B]

I saw this,but didn't get too much into it...
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/28/633366380/doubts-remain-over-north-korean-denuclearization
From 2 days ago,it's more of,there isn't any evidence that they are or aren't///

IMO The remains part is nice for the loved ones of the families,but like that article says,could be the remains.   I feel calling it a "big deal" is like most things from this administration,wildy over blown,to appease a parts of his base. It held more value to us,than Kim....

[CF DolFan]

The idea of Korea being a success is laughable. There is no oversight and the last I heard our observation was that it appeared they were increasing rather than dismantling.

As for what the country can do for me feelings, I know a guy who works strictly under the table, is a huge Trump supporter  (so much that he headbutted someone over it ) and is in the process of filing for Medicaid. Republicans love handouts, just not for other people.

Like I said ... you guys seem to only see and hear what you want. Although probably "accidentally" missed by CNN, many news outlets have reported their dismantling. It was kind of swished along as to not disturb Nancy Pelosi's more important straw ban but it was there.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/world/asia/north-korea-dismantling-missile-facilities.html

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/us-group-north-korea-dismantling-key-launch-site-56771613

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-site/report-says-images-indicate-north-korea-dismantling-test-site-facilities-idUSKBN1KD2HW

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44933126

[BuccaneerBrad]

Oh boy, thread derail imminent.

I think we're way past the point of no return

[DaLittle B]

All 4 links  refer to the same report (they're wire reports,one of the links even says it in the link),they "seem" to show possible dismantling...Obviously it "Seems" you didn't read them you just posted them because of the headline,and saw who they're posted by.If you did you might have noticed the bottom of the BBC report,rebutts the report,stating US intelligence leaks,show strengthening in another base.

Shrugs Shoulders...

[Spider-Dan]

What is the view of the return of Korean war vets remains on the left?  Is that not a big deal at all either?  Legit asking, not setting anything up I promise.

The general view I've seen is that no other President was willing to legitimize a Kim (Il-Sung, Jong-Il, or Jong-Un) by giving them a face-to-face meeting, unless that meeting gained SUBSTANTIAL policy concessions.  Returning dead veterans' remains is not a policy concession.

But here's the real irony: Trump blew up Obama's Iran deal, which had tangible requirements in writing, backed up by a coalition of nations ready to reimpose sanctions if they were violated.  (Note that Obama did not need to give Iran's president a photo op to secure said deal.) Conservatives cheered.  Meanwhile, Trump gives Kim Jong-Un a public relations coup in exchange for no defined commitment and... conservatives still cheer.

Again, the bar for Trump is set at the bottom of the ocean, and when he clears it, the right claps wildly.  Trump's "deal" with NK is clearly inferior to Obama's deal with Iran, yet the Trumpists proudly applaud him because he is Owning The Libs.

[Phishfan]

I would like to see where you read they were increasing rather than dismantling.  What I've seen is the opposite, so I'd like to compare it with what I've read.  What is the view of the return of Korean war vets remains on the left?  Is that not a big deal at all either?  Legit asking, not setting anything up I promise.

I don't have any family included in those being returned so I will defer to those affected. If my family was involved, this is how I would feel. We have lots of service members who have been buried overseas as part of war. I would prefer my loved ones remain undisturbed. I expect they are in mass graves and I don't foresee people being able to identify the numerous pieces of remains anyway so what is the point of digging them up?

As for the nuclear program, I guess it depends on what you feel is important and what equals success. I could only glance at CF'S articles while at work but they seem to be highlighting the test site for their ICBMs. I admit this is not nothing but is it really that big? If you can imagine N Korea being happy with the current state of their ICBM program, would they really need more testing at this time? Could this be a ploy to fool the Americans? As for the information I saw, I will refer to this article,
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/if-north-korea-denuclearizing-why-it-expanding-nuclear-research-center-n887056

That article describes that N Korea is expanding the facility where they enrich their nuclear fuel. Which seems more important now and does it really feel like success? Trump did not get any oversight agreed to and I don't think there are any timelines or benchmarks. If his demand was complete denuclearization, this feels a long way from success to me.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

What do you hold in high respect?

The constitution.....

…..including the right first amendment freedom of speech. That includes the right to kneel during anthem to protest police brutality or to burn the flag to protest a war.

….including a free press.  Not one that is barred from the white house because the president doesn't like the questions being asked.

…..including the Emoluments clause.  

….including the 5th and 14th amendments due process clause.  And the rights of refuge parents to stay with their minor children while waiting for a hearing.

…. including the right to counsel and that a system that expects a three year old to represent themselves in a deportation hearing without legal representation in inherently unfair.

…. including the concept that nobody is above the law including the president.
 

[DaLittle B]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-spy-agencies-north-korea-is-working-on-new-missiles/2018/07/30/b3542696-940d-11e8-a679-b09212fb69c2_story.html?utm_term=.b7cce2af6a47

Ehhh...Since it's what we were talking about,this is just coming out...

[CF DolFan]

What do you hold in high respect?

The constitution.....

…..including the right first amendment freedom of speech. That includes the right to kneel during anthem to protest police brutality or to burn the flag to protest a war.
 

Old question but it seems to always be overlooked just to say people are free to protest anything. How does the first amendment give you a right to protest anything while at work and upsetting half of the business's customers? I haven't seen anyone saying they couldn't protest ... just not while at work.

Tony Dungy nailed it this morning when he said  ... protesting three minutes before a game doesn't make sense as you should be mentally preparing to play. Use your interview time after the game to speak your mind.

[Fau Teixeira]

Like I said ... you guys seem to only see and hear what you want. Although probably "accidentally" missed by CNN, many news outlets have reported their dismantling. It was kind of swished along as to not disturb Nancy Pelosi's more important straw ban but it was there.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/world/asia/north-korea-dismantling-missile-facilities.html

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/us-group-north-korea-dismantling-key-launch-site-56771613

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-site/report-says-images-indicate-north-korea-dismantling-test-site-facilities-idUSKBN1KD2HW

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44933126

yeah .. ooor there's:

MISSILE ACTIVITY
On Monday, a senior U.S. official told Reuters that U.S. spy satellites had detected renewed activity at the North Korean factory that produced the country’s first intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of reaching the United States.

Pompeo said last week that North Korea was continuing to produce fuel for nuclear bombs.

Trump declared soon after his summit with Kim that North Korea no longer posed nuclear threats, but Pyongyang has offered no details on its plan to denuclearize and subsequent talks have not gone smoothly.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-southkorea-military/two-koreas-discuss-reducing-military-tension-amid-reports-of-north-korea-missile-activity-idUSKBN1KL09V

way to go trump

[Spider-Dan]

And here's more:

Several U.S. officials and private analysts said the continued activity inside North Korea’s weapons complex is not surprising, given that Kim made no public promise at the summit to halt work at the scores of nuclear and missile facilities scattered around the country.

The North Koreans “never agreed to give up their nuclear program,” said Ken Gause, a North Korea expert at the Center for Naval Analysis. And it is foolish to expect that they would do so at the outset of talks, he said.

It turns out that when you have a "deal" with no actual concrete terms, you can keep doing whatever you were doing before.  But that's OK, because Trump got his photo op and gave his people something to cheer for.  Please clap.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Old question but it seems to always be overlooked just to say people are free to protest anything. How does the first amendment give you a right to protest anything while at work and upsetting half of the business's customers? I haven't seen anyone saying they couldn't protest ... just not while at work.

Up until Sept 23, 2007 it was not a first amendment issue.  It was a employee/employer issue.  Once the leader of government demanded the NFL change its policy it became a first amendment issue.